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Term limits, a balanced budget: Ohio Republicans want to amend the U.S. Constitution
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 1/19/2022 | Anna Staver

Posted on 01/20/2022 5:22:38 AM PST by EBH

A pair of Republicans want Ohio to join a national effort to amend the U.S. Constitution with term limits for members of Congress and a balanced federal budget.

"It’s time for the states to step up," Rep. Riordan McClain, R-Upper Sandusky, said.

His proposal, House Joint Resolution 1, would submit Ohio's official application for a Convention of States to create new amendments in three specific areas: A balanced budget, term limits and reducing the jurisdiction of the federal government.

"Congress has had plenty of time to act on the subject items that we’ve laid out," McClain said. "But they've shown an unwillingness to pursue these important measures. I see no other path."

How a constitutional convention works Article V of the U.S. Constitution created a process for states to gather and propose amendments, but a convention has never been called.

hirty-four states have to submit an application to Congress on the same subject in order to convene.

"There's really no timeline," McClain said. But that doesn't mean it's easy.

Fifteen state legislatures have passed the required language over the last nine years, according to the national group behind the idea, Convention of States Action. Nine additional states have passed resolutions in one of their chambers, and 16 states (including Ohio) have introduced the concept.

Rep. Scott Wiggam, R-Wooster, asked about the potential for a "runaway convention" and whether the Bill of Rights might be harmed in the process.

And Rep. Brian Stewart, R-Ashville, said the idea "scares the hell out of me" even though he agreed with many of McClain's concerns about federal overreach.

Democratic Rep. Michael Skindell, D-Lakewood, wasn't sure about the process. Giving one vote to each state – regardless of its population – struck him as unfair.

"You're giving more votes to Republican states and then you have more Republican legislatures out there that will control the ratification of this," Skindell said. "You are tilting this to Republican ideas. By diluting the population, you are diluting the ideas of the people."

McClain said ratifying the amendments after the convention serves as a check on both political parties.

"It's an incredibly high bar," McClain said. "Getting 38 states in this day and age to agree to anything. It has to be a bipartisan effort."

Still, he recognized that this is a complicated legal argument, and his fellow representatives might need some time to digest it all.

HJR 1 is waiting on additional hearings in the House before a committee decides whether to put it up for a vote. But the idea has support from Republican leadership in the Ohio Senate.

Senate President Matt Huffman, R-Lima, introduced a similar joint resolution for a convention of states that didn't pass during the last General Assembly.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: convention
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1 posted on 01/20/2022 5:22:38 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH
The balnced budget sailed with Ross Perot, and the Brandonton Swamp will NEVER accept term limits.

The K-Street lobbyists like their bought politicians to have a long shelf life.

2 posted on 01/20/2022 5:26:06 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: EBH

Any Constitutional Convention held would be a disaster of monumental proportions, as it would get out of hand and the Left would get all kinds of nonsense from their wishlists added—BAD PLAN.


3 posted on 01/20/2022 5:29:47 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: EBH

An attempt to amend the constitution would open the door to the left and give them the opportunity to hijack the process and rewrite it to look like the communist manifesto. The Republicans can’t be trusted to keep that from happening; they’re demonstrably too weak.


4 posted on 01/20/2022 5:32:07 AM PST by Spok (Who is Ray Epps?)
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To: EBH

Term limits, flat tax, abolish the IRS, school choice, etc,etc,etc.

None of it will EVER happen. Pipe dreams.


5 posted on 01/20/2022 5:32:19 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: EBH

Never, ever fall for the Term Limits For Congress Trojan Horse. Go there without including CONGRESSIONAL STAFF all the way down to the janitors you will achieve one result only…an Omnipotent Swamp incapable of ever being drained.

Doubt me? Remember this name and what this loser was capable of doing, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman. There’s others but this loser is the most visible. Staff Rules all the way down to city councils. There’s where the genuine term limits should be focused.

We can bring home the elected officials that don’t perform, we as constituents have no control over congressional staffing.


6 posted on 01/20/2022 5:32:39 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: EBH

Repeal the 17th Amendment. Everything else is a diversion.


7 posted on 01/20/2022 5:39:49 AM PST by Ken H (Trump won.)
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To: Ken H
"Repeal the 17th Amendment. Everything else is a diversion."

And also repeal the 16th.

8 posted on 01/20/2022 5:42:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: unixfox

At best, if focus was only on one single topic (like term limits)....you probably could make a dramatic campaign across the US to have a Constitutional change fixed up. But it would take a massive push like we haven’t seen in seventy-odd years. And I would suggest the text be limited to only 30 words max....to avoid any complication.


9 posted on 01/20/2022 5:46:09 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: EBH

Better idea...

The Republican Party imposes term limits on its own members.

Then, the GOP uses term limits as a campaign weapon against any party that refuses to impose term limits.

Also, make the limits long enough so the new members have enough time to learn the job, mature, and grow their influence.

Six terms (12 years) in the House. Two terms (12 years) in the Senate. Twelve years as a state Governor.


10 posted on 01/20/2022 5:52:45 AM PST by zeestephen
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“Term limits, a balanced budget: Ohio Republicans want to amend the U.S. Constitution”

A meaningful enforceable balanced budget amendment would be IMPOSSIBLE to craft.

After HUNDREDS of pages of definitions and explanations Congress (Democrats AND Republicans) would find ways around it (loopholes) to continue spending your money. Its what they do.


11 posted on 01/20/2022 6:10:33 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: unixfox

very true. Which of the GOP state houses that didn’t have the stomach to right this ,most foul, election in our history , would have the fortitude to successfully execute a convention of states that does anything useful.

Need to start electing more conservatives whose balls have dropped and quit electing wimps. WE NEED FIGHTERS not get along types. The left is something that must be destroyed not bargained with. “You cannot bargain with a lion whilst your head is in it’s mouth”. Churchill.


12 posted on 01/20/2022 6:18:42 AM PST by ping jockey (Want to make a conservative mad,tell him a lie.Want to makye a liberal lose his mind?Tell him Truths)
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Term limits are okay with me as long as term limited individuals can run/serve again after say 4-6 years.

If you liked your Congressman or Senator THAT much, you can vote them back in after a few years.

Also that it would not prevent House members from running for Senate or vice versa.

I think that is a fair compromise all could accept. (I didn’t say “like”, I said “accept”).


13 posted on 01/20/2022 6:19:35 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: EBH

What good are term limits when the new weasels adopt the same failed policies as the old weasels?


14 posted on 01/20/2022 6:21:05 AM PST by FormerFRLurker
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To: bigfootbob
Never, ever fall for the Term Limits For Congress Trojan Horse. Go there without including CONGRESSIONAL STAFF all the way down to the janitors you will achieve one result only…an Omnipotent Swamp incapable of ever being drained.

Doubt me? Remember this name and what this loser was capable of doing, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman. There’s others but this loser is the most visible. Staff Rules all the way down to city councils. There’s where the genuine term limits should be focused.

We can bring home the elected officials that don’t perform, we as constituents have no control over congressional staffing.

THIS ^^^^^^ If bigfootbob hadn't written this, I would have.

15 posted on 01/20/2022 6:28:26 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (qd4)
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To: EBH

IIRC, OBAMA never actually presented Congress with ANY budget.


16 posted on 01/20/2022 6:44:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: EBH

Term limits and a balanced budget should be SOP everywhere


17 posted on 01/20/2022 6:54:30 AM PST by butlerweave
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Hey, give them a break. Congre$$’$ budget every year includes a hefty pay raise for them so they are taking care of their mo$t important bu$ine$$.


18 posted on 01/20/2022 6:58:41 AM PST by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti Astronomers see white dwarf 'switch on and off' for first time)
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To: bigfootbob
Bingo. Not just Vindman. How about Fauci?
19 posted on 01/20/2022 7:23:31 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: EBH
"reducing the jurisdiction of the federal government"

Seems a bit redundant when we already have the oft ignored 9th and 10th amendments. It would work better to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments.

20 posted on 01/20/2022 7:29:13 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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