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To: Glad2bnuts; olivia3boys; lightman; nickcarraway; Hodar; BipolarBob; Dr. Sivana
Oh, this guy is a piece of...work. Doc was saying, just THREE DAYS AGO,

“We're seeing second cases of omicron more often in people who didn't get vaccinated than in people who have been vaccinated, but second cases of omicron in both cases,” said Dr. John Swartzberg of UC Berkeley.

He added that there is still a lot to learn about the new variant.

“We hardly saw any breakthrough infections with any of the variants until omicron,” said Swartzberg. “So clearly our immune system doesn't do as well against omicron as it has done against other variants.”(emphasis added)

Now wait a min, doc....isn't it the SHOTS that don't do as well? The whole point of getting the shots was to PREVENT COVID19. Are you REALLY failing our immune systems?

I've said this many times...vaccine Efficacy (VE) was a strong 90%+ early on. But by the end of July it looked like VE would fall below 50% just 6 months after the second shot and become totally ineffective by 10 months. Further research in August showed VE during Delta falling to 66%.

Ruh roh.

As an important side note, all of this research is based on statistical analyses of data. They are NOT clinical trials. That is an important distinction, because 1) none of these shots underwent legitimate trials that examined long-term impacts that other approved vaccines underwent and 2) vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years. Therefore, we should have VERY LITTLE TOLERANCE for declining VE for these shots.

And now, with Omicron, we are seeing VE being zero in Norway and Denmark and of course the US.

I'll say it again: if people are in a high morbidity cohort or feel like they need to get these shots, I will never criticize them. Heck, even if they AREN'T in such a cluster I won't say a thing-Personal health is a personal matter.

What this Doctor is saying, in reality, is CONTINUE LIVING IN FEAR.

Because that's all they have left...we are all likely survivors of covid or 1-2 steps removed from someone who had it. We know it's not a laughing matter...but it's not Ebola.

It is now decision time. Olivia put it best - I was no longer willing to stay away from church and other people indoors. THAT kind of talk, is what scares them.

15 posted on 01/17/2022 10:03:27 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
Great post! Yes, I’d agree and have stated that statistics support early efficacy and well into Delta. Now? Not seeing it now though and the adverse effects seems to be reported in greater numbers with higher visibility.

There has never been a “one size fits all” solution for personal health and only simian-grade thinking would believe it, and less than simian-grade intelligence would implement said thinking as policy.

The simple fact that alternative therapies, “right to try” policy and other innovative approaches in addition to the availability of vaccines with informed consent have not been promoted indicates either a vile alternative agenda is in place or our leadership has gone full “planet of the apes”. I suspect both.

May those who induced so much unnecessary suffering on our people meet swift and harsh justice.

36 posted on 01/18/2022 5:20:41 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: DoodleBob
#1 You should never vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic. It only prolongs it and produces variants.
#2 A drugs efficacy NEVER depends on the people who didn't take it. Common sense isn't so common when there's money to be made and power to grab.
40 posted on 01/18/2022 7:46:17 AM PST by BipolarBob (BipolarBob's your uncle.)
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