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1 posted on 01/14/2022 12:32:40 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: River Hawk

Old Vietnam era magazine cartoon showing a general at his desk, pen in hand and an underling.

General: “What day of the month were you born, soldier?”

Soldier: “The 7th, sir.”

General: “Fine. The number of confirmed Vietcong dead this month is 7,000.”


2 posted on 01/14/2022 12:37:11 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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“The bill requires each birth certificate for a child born in Oklahoma include the citizenship of the parents. If neither of the parents are citizens of the United States, the child will not be granted U.S. or Oklahoma citizenship.”

I could imagine some U.S. citizen with 6 months to live selling his signature on paternity for quick cash (the six months to live is to not be on the hook for child support). Of course, the illegal aliens may just skip over to Texas or Missouri, which I guess is the idea.
5 posted on 01/14/2022 12:40:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: River Hawk

Interesting subject. The 10th amendment trumps federal law. But can that be a reasonable position to use it to overturn the 14th?


6 posted on 01/14/2022 12:43:31 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Imagine, if you will, a vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it. )
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To: River Hawk

That are about 30,000,000 of those horses out of the barn.


7 posted on 01/14/2022 12:44:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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I think the current “law” is not valid. But can’t happen soon enough.


8 posted on 01/14/2022 12:44:56 PM PST by stevio
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To: River Hawk

Too late, the camel is already in the tent.


10 posted on 01/14/2022 12:54:43 PM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: River Hawk

I’m not a lawyer and I don’t even play one on the internet, but I doubt it would work.

During the Obama years Arizona tried to enforce the immigration laws - because Obama wouldn’t.

It didn’t work. SCOTUS ruled that immigration was a federal policy, not a state policy.


11 posted on 01/14/2022 1:10:47 PM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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And just how long have we waited for a Republican to
step up to the plate and knock this one out of the park?
The method, unlike what was expected, but if this gets the
job done, more power to you, Sir.


12 posted on 01/14/2022 1:19:44 PM PST by V K Lee (Our CONSTITUTION. Written with DIVINE assistence by very wise men. A document unlike any other.)
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According to Senator Dahm, “Birthright citizenship was never the intent of the 14th Amendment.” He’s exactly right and I wish him success in his endeavor to get a law passed. It’s pretty sad when you have to pass laws to restate what’s already in the Constitution.


13 posted on 01/14/2022 1:43:49 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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Thank you for referencing that article River Hawk. Please note that the following critique is directed at the anchor baby policy and not at you.

"Current American policy grants automatic birthright citizenship to babies born to illegal alien mothers. It’s been the practice for decades."


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Based on the writings of Justice Joseph Story, the fed's misguided anchor baby policy unsurprisingly effectively defeats the purpose of the Constitution's "uniform Rule of Naturalization" clause imo.

While the paragraph is a good read, the concerns that led to the naturalization clause are hilited at the end of the paragraph.

Corrections, insights welcome.

The ultimate remedy for unconstitutionally big, alleged election-stealing, Democratic Party-pirated federal and state governments, allegedly manufacturing crises to oppress everybody under their boots...

Consider that the states effectively have "veto power" over continued unpopular, unconstitutional actions of the feds.

More specifically, all the states can effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big federal government by doing the following.

Patriots need to primary federal and state elected officials who don't send voters email ASAP that clearly promises to do the following.

Federal and state lawmakers need to promise in their emails to introduce resolutions no later than 100 days after start of new legislative sessions that proposes an amendment to the Constitution to the states, the amendment limited to repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments (16&17A), little or no discussion required imo.

In fact, I challenge the states to ram the repeal amendment for 16&17A through the ratification process faster than Nancy Pelosi irresponsibly rammed unconstitutional Obamacare through the House. /semi-sarc

Again, insights welcome.

15 posted on 01/14/2022 1:54:51 PM PST by Amendment10
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OK, so they could deny the anchor baby Oklahoma citizenship but it won’t impact U.S. citizenship.


18 posted on 01/14/2022 2:06:27 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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If the Lautenburg amendment can go back and retroactively take 2nd Amendment rights for misdemeanors, then we should be able to pass a law that RETROACTIVELY takes away citizenship from ILLEGAL ALIENS and their spawn.
19 posted on 01/14/2022 2:32:53 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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Oklahoma just jumped up a notch or two in states I’m considering moving to.


21 posted on 01/14/2022 4:52:52 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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