Posted on 01/13/2022 9:27:35 AM PST by Navy Patriot
Russia on Thursday sharply raised the stakes in its dispute with the West over Ukraine, with a top diplomat refusing to rule out a Russian military deployment to Cuba and Venezuela if tensions with the United States mount.
Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who led the Russian delegation in Monday’s talks with the U.S. in Geneva, said he could “neither confirm nor exclude” the possibility of Russia sending military assets to Cuba and Venezuela if the talks fail and U.S. pressure on Russia mounts.
The Russia-U.S. negotiations in Geneva and a subsequent NATO-Russia meeting failed to narrow the gap on Moscow’s security demands amid a buildup of Russian troops near Ukraine. While Moscow demanded a halt to NATO expansion, Washington and its allies firmly rejected that as a nonstarter.
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LOL. Great post. You have a sardonic, but realistic view of things.
Russia sounds like us 30 years ago.
Although after suffering several invasions from Europe, including the devastating Nazi invasion, it’s now an article of faith over there that any future invader will have their own homeland devastated.
DC and the Pentagram are spoiling for a conventional war with Russia and are certain nobody would ever dare nuke us.
Its just a game to DC, they see a US and Russia war like Obama upset he can’t have an NCAA College championship game. Others don’t think it’s a game.
It’s almost unbelievable. It’s like ‘what’s the worst thing I can do to destroy the economy, the health, education, freedoms, and the very lives of all Americans’!
That’s psychotic. They are literally playing with fire. We are living in frightening times and led by the worst people in the world.
Pedophilia and same-sex “marriage”?
Pedophilia and same-sex “marriage”?
In ten years Russia will have even less capability to project power across oceans than they do today. Russia has a large number of ships but most of them are alongside, in extended years-long refit, and they count small boats like RHIBS as ‘ships’.
They have a predominantly littoral surface fleet and a declining submarine fleet.
Conversely, the US Navy is a focused blue water navy with little to no littoral components. The US Navy abdicated the littoral role to the Coasties after WW2...which is why the USGC often gets deployed to shallow water theatres such as the Tigris-Euphrates delta.
In short, the Russians can threaten to send troops to Cuba and Venezuela all they want. Now let’s see them do it.
>> If nothing else, it would be very damaging to American prestige.<<
American prestige is spelled: B I D E N
I thought China was going to Cuba?
The US could handle both, but it would be difficult. With the participation of our allies it would not even be close because of the fact that our military technology is far superior to that of any of our enemies.
Yes I know, we all hear about all the Chinese wonder weapons like their hypersonic cruise missiles, their ballistic missile carrier killers etc...etc... ad nauseum. Believe very little about Chinese weapons and platforms that you read in news sources. Why you might ask? The CCP pays western journalists to provide positive coverage of their military tech and everything else. Yes, a majority of western news sources are paid to print CCP propaganda. Believing Chinese military tech is superior to US/Allied military tech, is a true fools errand.
The problem for them is the fact that they cannot make those weapons work, nor can they make their stealth technology work. How do we know this? Because we have intel systems that record the telemetry of their weapons tests and detailed analysis of that telemetry reveals all about the operational characteristics of any weapon, and theirs are not very good, at least by western standards. Also, it wouldn’t matter if all of China’s new Navy were sailing ships, the worthless fucks at the Pentagon would try to tell Congress and the American people that those sailing ships in such great numbers are an existential threat to the US, so pleast Congress, GIVE US MORE MONEY. Always follow the money. Publicly shared, by the Pentagon, intel about the capabilities of Russian/Chinese ships/planes/weapons/sensors etc...etc... are always exaggerated by the Pentagon so they can demand more money in the next budget. Did I tell you to follow the money.
But, back to my original thought on this; like usual, I would suspect that the US is going to get caught with our pants down; training wise and military leadership wise we will be unprepared because those two things are where our military is severely lacking, and China/Russia might win the first battle or two, but that will change quickly as we get rid of the present worthless military leadership and replace them with actual warriors and patriots and we accelerate our top level technologies getting out to the warfighters, and I’m not talking about the directed energy weapons, they’re already being installed in the fleet and on our armored vehicles and on our aircraft.
The Chinese and Russians are far behind in Combat Systems technology, super conductivity tech, which by the way is the reason we can now field operational laser weapons. Also the technology which would most quickly be exploited would be the UFO swarms we’ve all heard so much about lately. If anybody actually believes our military doesn’t know what these are or whom produced them, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Those things are advanced technology from DARPA. In fact the only country which could produce that kind of tech is the US. Occams Razor for those of you who doubt this.
Russia is bluster and bull shit
The Island of Java has a population greater than all the Russian Federation
“And the oft forgotten part of that doctrine was that we would not interfere in that part of the world”
Really? Where did you learn that? Its total BS. Because the Monroe Doctrine was not a negotiated deal, it was simply the US telling our adversaries, and our potential future adversaries in the Eastern Hemisphere that the US would not allow an Eastern power to establish military bases and dominance in the West. And even if what you claim were true it doesn’t matter because there is no enforcement mechanism except militarilly between those nations. And even if there was international law that would matter not either for the same reason.
The same rules apply now in Geopolitics as applied at the very beginning, the guy with the biggest stick wins because he can do whatever he wants and if nobody stops him then thats the way it is. Geopolitics is really just the rule of the jungle in practical terms.
You might be right, and I hope you are.
Ping. Ping. Ping.
That is exactly correct. Great reply.
Oh yeah, innocent Joseph Stalin, all traumatized by the invasion of Hitler, after he made a deal with the Germans to divvy up Poland and start WW2.
Now they'll never take it again! It's an article of faith with them, they'll nuke everybody! Because of all the hard times they've experienced being the victims of the Europeans! That's why they had to kill so many of them behind the Iron Curtain for no reason at all! Can't trust a single one of them!
Chile is probably too far away from the US mainland to host a quick response missile threat to the United States, but could become a useful outpost for the Chinese or Russians.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Lots of good points, but mostly from a symmetric warfare perspective. As you no doubt are aware there others ways to attack us that could be very problematic for a country with the incredibly complex systems that we rely on. In other words we’re highly vulnerable in some very obvious ways.
Of course our biggest vulnerabilities right now is our demonstrably weak and feckless leadership which leads me to another point. I’m also skeptical about our reliance on our so-called “allies”, especially with respect to having to contend with simultaneous aggression by Russia and China. They may back us up when facing a single aggressor because of our military superiority, but not so sure they would when the odds aren’t as good. They are going to start equivocating when things get tough.
Its also not lost on the rest of the world that we have our own set of serious problems, internal divides and dysfunctionalities that are weakening us. Somewhat related is the debacle in Afghanistan which provided reasons to be skeptical of U.S. “commitments”.
So to wrap it up, I still see concurrent threats as highly problematic, along with asymmetric warfare and weak leadership. We can agree to disagree, but I think we both agree that our impaired military readiness and weak leadership pose very serious problems for this country.
So are they planning on shipping in a boatload of anti-tank missiles to Cuber??
Appeasement allows aggression (I think Rumsfeld, among many others, said that).
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