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My Debate with an ICU Doctor About the Possible Dangers of the COVID-19 Vaccine
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2022 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 01/09/2022 3:41:12 AM PST by Kaslin

It's so easy to win a debate with an ignorant liberal. They have no facts. They have no brilliant oratory. Just name-calling. After my national TV interviews last week explaining why I believe the COVID-19 vaccine is killing and injuring thousands of Americans, I received an email from an intensive care unit doctor. He called me a "moron." Below is my reply filled with common sense, logic, facts and most importantly, SCIENCE about the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccine. Needless to say, the doctor never replied.

Dear David,

First, I read and answer all my own emails. I'm answering you personally. I don't engage in ignorant terms like "moron" toward people that disagree with me.

Second, this country (and world) is filled with both unvaccinated and vaccinated who are sick with COVID-19. It's a nasty and contagious flu. At this moment almost every vaccinated person I know is sick with COVID-19. A report released by the Robert Koch Institute stated that in Germany over 96% of those with COVID-19 are vaccinated.

Third, some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system, thereby making it more likely that the vaccinated will get sick with each successive variant.

Fourth, if the vaccine is so great, why do the deep blue states like New York have massive COVID-19 outbreaks? New York City just set the all-time record for COVID-19 infections in a day. New York right now has almost 30% of all the COVID-19 cases nationwide. How could this happen if vaccines, masks and lockdowns worked?

Fifth, if the vaccine is so great, why are there far more COVID-19 deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than there were in 2020 -- without it?

Sixth, as a M.D., why don't you pay attention to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System? It's been the gold standard for decades to identify if any vaccine is causing more harm than good.

This COVID-19 jab may have killed over 21,000 Americans. That's separate from the cardiac arrests, strokes, blood clots and permanent disabilities that could be associated with the vaccine. And this jab has potentially caused a staggering 1 million "adverse effects." These numbers are from VAERS -- user-reported data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Seventh, are you aware Columbia University researchers found that adverse events associated with vaccines could be vastly underreported? They suggest you must multiply by 20 to approximate the accurate number of deaths and injuries. So according to the math of Columbia researchers, there are actually over 400,000 deaths and millions of injuries that could be tied to the vaccine.

How could you doubt VAERS? Pfizer's own research showed that there were 1,200 deaths during the initial first few weeks of their vaccine rollout. That's Pfizer's reporting.

Anyone who wants the vaccine should get it. It's called choice. They should thank former President Donald Trump for the availability of this vaccine.

The rest of us who are relatively healthy and/or relatively young have a 99.9% recovery rate from COVID-19. No one should be FORCED to vaccinate, mask, endure lockdowns, lose their job or close their business in America. We have choices. We take risks every day.

Certainly, people should agree that no baby, toddler, child or teen should ever be forced to take this jab. As a John Hopkins study proved, the risk of a child dying is basically zero. Out of 48,000 childhood cases of COVID-19 they studied, no healthy child died.

I've had COVID-19. It was gone in 48 hours after I took ivermectin, plus antibiotic (Z Pak), plus megadoses of vitamins C, D3, zinc and quercetin. Plus, I received intravenous vitamin C. Worked like a charm. Gone in 48 hours. Mild.

I now have immunity. No one with immunity needs to vaccinate. I believe the risks far outweigh the benefits. I make healthy lifestyle choices. I'm not anti-vaccine. I'm pro-immune system.

Justus R. Hope, M.D., and others report that in India, the government ended the worst COVID-19 outbreak anywhere in the world by handing out free packets of ivermectin plus vitamins. They report that COVID-19 went away literally overnight, and deaths dropped to virtually zero. That's exactly what America should have done and should be doing right now.

There are dozens of studies around the world that demonstrate the efficacy of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as antivirals versus COVID-19.

I wish you well. I hope I've opened your eyes to the alternatives out there. I know what you see each day in your ICU: the sickest of the sick. It's tragic they have no access to ivermectin or HCQ, plus vitamins like C, D3 and zinc. Early treatment (in the first three to five days) with this combination would almost guarantee few ever wind up at the ICU -- where you see them and where it may already be too late.

It's important to allow different opinions and questions. If "science" won't respect or allow discussion or debate, it's no longer science; it's just propaganda.

I'm doing my best to keep America healthy. I know you're doing your best.

God bless.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: covid; covidvaccine; deaths; doctor; harm; ivermectin; keyboardmd; rona; root; vaccine; vaccines; vaers
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1 posted on 01/09/2022 3:41:12 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
As a Johns Hopkins study proved, the risk of a child [...]

Such errors - incl. even only typographical errors - can greatly diminish the credibility of an article.

Regards,

2 posted on 01/09/2022 3:46:39 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Kaslin

Well said. I should copy this link for my dr.


3 posted on 01/09/2022 3:47:48 AM PST by Adder (Proud member of the FJBLGB community: /s is implied where applicable.)
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To: Kaslin
Excellent letter, Kaslin.

Thanks for posting it.

4 posted on 01/09/2022 3:50:18 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: alexander_busek
Such errors - incl. even only typographical errors - can greatly diminish the credibility of an article.

That was largely true until the age of autocorrect.

5 posted on 01/09/2022 4:10:33 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Adder
Well said. I should copy this link for my dr.

He'll say you're a moron.

6 posted on 01/09/2022 4:11:05 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Kaslin

These are my concerns as well. I like how he said, I’m not anti vax, I’m pro immune system.


7 posted on 01/09/2022 4:11:28 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Possibly...he probably thinks that now...but I think he is at least reachable. He won’t change his mind tho...they are all threatened not to do so.


8 posted on 01/09/2022 4:26:16 AM PST by Adder (Proud member of the FJBLGB community: /s is implied where applicable.)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


9 posted on 01/09/2022 4:26:26 AM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: Kaslin
“I'm doing my best to keep America healthy. I know you're doing your best.”

You could feel the impact land with that last part.

10 posted on 01/09/2022 4:30:28 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: alexander_busek
Such errors - incl. even only typographical errors - can greatly diminish the credibility of an article.

Greatly diminish, really? For a typo that may well have been computer generated?

As a graduate of JHU, I admire your devotion to typographical purity and the correct spelling of my alma mater, but the points he makes in the article stand on their own -- with or without the final s

11 posted on 01/09/2022 4:39:45 AM PST by Blennos ( )
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To: Kaslin

12 posted on 01/09/2022 4:43:39 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: SteveH

“Second, this country (and world) is filled with both unvaccinated and vaccinated who are sick with COVID-19. It’s a nasty and contagious flu. At this moment almost every vaccinated person I know is sick with COVID-19. A report released by the Robert Koch Institute stated that in Germany over 96% of those with COVID-19 are vaccinated.”

Vaccines don’t work against Omicron which is 75 percent less fatal anyway

“Third, some studies show that the COVID-19 vaccine damages the immune system, thereby making it more likely that the vaccinated will get sick with each successive variant.”

Please give a source for this baseless claim.

“, if the vaccine is so great, why do the deep blue states like New York have massive COVID-19 outbreaks? New York City just set the all-time record for COVID-19 infections in a day. New York right now has almost 30% of all the COVID-19 cases nationwide. How could this happen if vaccines, masks and lockdowns worked”

All states are having massive less-harmful Omicron outbreaks. I’m not your babysitter, just type “Covid cases by state” into google and you can see for yourself.

“Fifth, if the vaccine is so great, why are there far more COVID-19 deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than there were in 2020 — without it?”

Because in 2020 restaurants, bars, non-essential stores, theaters, and stadiums were closed, and public gatherings of more than a small number of people were illegal. Where were you in 2020, asleep?

“Sixth, as a M.D., why don’t you pay attention to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System? It’s been the gold standard for decades to identify if any vaccine is causing more harm than good.”
Vaers contains all reports of adverse events occurring after vaccination, whether the adverse events were caused by the vaccine or not. 8,000 people died in the US every day in 2019, when Covid did not exist. This was before the vaccines existed. Did vaccines cause these deaths?

“This COVID-19 jab may have killed over 21,000 Americans. That’s separate from the cardiac arrests, strokes, blood clots and permanent disabilities that could be associated with the vaccine. And this jab has potentially caused a staggering 1 million “adverse effects.” These numbers are from VAERS — user-reported data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Now you are just making things up, or quoting Steve Kirsch or RFK junior.

“Seventh, are you aware Columbia University researchers found that adverse events associated with vaccines could be vastly underreported? They suggest you must multiply by 20 to approximate the accurate number of deaths and injuries. So according to the math of Columbia researchers, there are actually over 400,000 deaths and millions of injuries that could be tied to the vaccine. “

This study showed a rate of anaphylaxis to be higher if you specifically sent vaccine recipients a detailed questionnaire asking when they experienced any of 12 different symptoms of anaphylaxis. The study results conflict with other studies which show a 20 times lower rate of anaphylaxis. If you were short of breath or had a scratchy throat, it could be because you had a cold, not an allergic reaction to the vaccine.


13 posted on 01/09/2022 4:44:40 AM PST by brookwood
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To: Kaslin

The incestuous relationship between the FDA and Pharma is doing it again. Exactly same kind of corrupt bullshit that brought the opioid epidemic on us.

Breakthrough pain? Bigger dose.

Breakthrough infection? More jabs.


14 posted on 01/09/2022 5:01:58 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: alexander_busek

Only among the arrogant who believe Johns Hopkins doctors invented the water they walk on.

In fact, the Johns Hopkins doctors at the practice I used are so special, they don’t see sick patients and refer them to the less important doctors at the local urgent care.

Don’t believe me? It happened to me when I got bronchitis.

I did finally have to go see them for a refill. I asked the braniac skull full of mush is she would consider Ivermectin and received an immediate emphatic NO.

She said she hadn’t researched it yet. I reminded her that she;s had two years.


15 posted on 01/09/2022 5:05:36 AM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR)
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To: Kaslin

When a leftist starts in with the name calling, that’s the signal that you won the debate before it even started.


16 posted on 01/09/2022 5:14:40 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: brookwood

Every one of your counter-arguments is irrelevant. “COVID” is not a significant threat to 99.9% of the population, the “vaccines” prevent neither infection with, or transmission of, “COVID”. There is, therefore, no reason whatsoever that most people should get them, and even less reason that they should be FORCED to get them. There is likewise NO reason for masks, closures, or limitations of any kind on gatherings, etc. Your propaganda-driven irrational fear does not give you (or the government) the right to force me to do anything, or to prevent me from doing anything, simply because you think it makes a difference or is necessary, particularly in the absence of any data or evidence supporting that belief.


17 posted on 01/09/2022 5:17:10 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: brookwood

That’s sweet that you still believe that google searches are unbiased. I will take the research of Steve Kirsch and RFK Jr over Fauci and the CDC any day of the week.


18 posted on 01/09/2022 5:17:36 AM PST by binreadin
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To: Adder
Possibly...he probably thinks that now...but I think he is at least reachable. He won’t change his mind tho...they are all threatened not to do so.

If he does call you a moron, ask him if his magic rock only works if you buy one, too. If he doesn't get it, the confused look on his face will be worth it.

19 posted on 01/09/2022 5:20:52 AM PST by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: Kaslin

Only thing I will say is, having a previous case of Covid 19 does not make you immune, it doesn’t grant you immunity.. yes you have antibodies so if you do get re infected the likelihood of a bad outcome is lower, but you aren’t immune…. The first recognized death in the US was from a person who have previously been infected and recovered.

You are no more immune from it than you would be from the flu or the common cold because you had a case before.

You are better protected, but you aren’t immune, any more than someone who’s had the vaccine is a immune. You are better protected but you aren’t immune


20 posted on 01/09/2022 5:27:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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