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My Debate with an ICU Doctor About the Possible Dangers of the COVID-19 Vaccine
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2022 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 01/09/2022 3:41:12 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: RideForever; brookwood
How does that stack up against Fauci's death protocol?

Fauchnocchio has a history of "death protocols" [AZT].

101 posted on 01/09/2022 10:32:34 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Kaslin

This is way, way too rational to persuade any doctor who is pro-vaccine because their livelihood, social status, and worldview depend on believing in technocratic solutions. The more you present evidence that refutes their argument, they will just double down on their position (this is called cognitive dissonance). Instead, you have to use humor and smile when you say something like: Hey, C-19 deaths are skyrocketing upwards, but at the same time flu deaths have dropped to zero: what do you think it is?

Moreover, a rational argument could be put together against both sides. For example, hydroxychoroquine can work but what liberal doctors did was administer it in such high dosages that it killed the patients. Or they administered hydroxyquininoline which is dangerous. This was obviously done to spite its proponents.

Headlines report of people who are vaxxed who nevertheless die of so-called virus; and conversely or those unvaxxed who also die of so-called virus. So, neither side of the argument is helpful.

The virus is a flu and it is not contagious by airborne particles but it can nevertheless be transmitted socially by what people eat in common (sugar, alcohol, drugs, etc.) or by common exposure to electro magnetic waves. And eating protein and carbohydrate once one is sick will result in pneumonia, as the liver cannot process infection and food at the same time (feed a cold, starve a fever). The flu is occurring world wide because of sun spots, roll out of 5G microwave transmissions, or some other reason, not due to airborne spread of a virus. Wuhan, China is where 5G was initially rolled out. Two days after outbreak in China, many of the elderly leaders in Iran died of same thing. There was no travel to Iran from China in those two days where contact was made with Iranian leaders. Both sides have it wrong.


102 posted on 01/09/2022 11:04:06 AM PST by WLusvardi
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To: cyclotic

“KJV only would be a deal breaker,”

LOL! It’s the opposite for me. If not KJV, we walk. It’s not a perfect translation, but I think it’s the best.

My dad’s a minister (also uncles, cousins, many friends), and I grew up on KJV, so the “arcane” words are common for me. Gave me a great advantage in school with Canterbury Tales, Beowulf, etc.

It bothers me a bit that King James had my ancestor burned at the stake in 1611, but his translator guys did a pretty good job.


103 posted on 01/09/2022 11:10:43 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Kaslin

I agree with the position of the ICU doctor.


104 posted on 01/09/2022 11:13:47 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: bigfootbob

“What was your reply? Did you end the relationship?”

My reply was “uh huh” as I wrote a note on the paper I had; I think she pretty much knew how to translate it. I’m in the process of searching for a new doc, but I understand that even here in eastern red TN most doctors won’t prescribe.

I figure if they won’t prescribe Ivermectin and similar, they truly don’t have my best interests at heart. So how can I trust anything they do or say? I don’t.


105 posted on 01/09/2022 11:14:26 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Yes. That’s exactly what it boils down to.


106 posted on 01/09/2022 11:15:42 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: sheana

Good news for you. More and more people will be getting a concierge doctor. They have a vested interest in keeping their patients healthy, unlike most doctors who earn more with more procedures.


107 posted on 01/09/2022 12:33:53 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Kaslin
It's a nasty and contagious flu.

Wayne Allyn Root - still full of baloney.

108 posted on 01/09/2022 1:17:31 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: sopo

I think the post said .5%, rather than 5%. I had to look twice.


109 posted on 01/09/2022 1:59:09 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Tymesup

Thanks, I guess I’m glad I actually posted that to myself. In a hurry.


110 posted on 01/09/2022 2:15:21 PM PST by sopo
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To: HamiltonJay

It’s a flu virus, you aren’t immune from the flu once you get a case.
________________________________

Then you surely as hell can’t be “vaccinated” against it.

Yet this is what the global government’s are trying shove down our throats.

Mandatory inoculations demand mandatory retaliation.

Born Free, Live Free, Die Free


111 posted on 01/09/2022 5:37:15 PM PST by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: HypatiaTaught
Mandatory inoculations demand mandatory retaliation.

It will NOT stop until the hangings start.

I am NOT calling for vigilante action. I am saying that the Neuremberg II trials need to start and the murderers like Faudci need to be executed.

And some of the idiots with medical degrees who support the killing of children by vaxxxxination need to be executed too. If enough of these so called doctors are hung, the rest will get the message that murder by vaxxxxxine is a capital crime.

112 posted on 01/09/2022 6:40:14 PM PST by politicianslie (Those who got vaxxed need to update their wills. Fall flu season approaches & vaxxes HURT immune sys)
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To: Brian Griffin
I have yet to see any associated pathology report.

And why is that, you think?

p.s. How many autopsy reports have you seen?


113 posted on 01/09/2022 9:30:00 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: HypatiaTaught

Did I say you could be?

Existing flu vaccines, including the Covid 19 shots do NOT guarantee you won’t get it, they don’t guarantee you won’t spread it.... and they don’t guarantee you won’t die.

They do, and yes the data does back it up, that your likelihood of death is lower if you are vaccinated, but not even the manufacturers of these jabs make any claims that their shots will stop you from getting it, passing it along, or having a bad outcome. They aren’t the ones making such ludicrous claims... those (won’t get sick, won’t pass it on, or won’t die) false claims are being made by bureaucrats and politicians and pundits in the media.

I don’t agree with mandatory vaccinations, let alone UNIVERSAL vaccinations which is absolutely insane.

However, the claim folks on the other side of the aisle claiming, if you have it you are immune, are just as much nonsense and not being made by ANYONE who actually has a clue. You aren’t “IMMUNE” if you have had and recovered from Covid from getting it again, that’s a completely false claim again.
You do have antibodies yes, but these are flu viruses they are constantly evolving, and if you have had it, odds are you won’t get a bad case if you get it again, but just because you have had it, doesn’t mean you can’t get it again, and it doesn’t mean that you can’t die if you do.... Odds are lower, but they are not zero... As I stated before the first Omicron documented death in the US, was actually a patient that had had and recovered from Covid previously.


114 posted on 01/10/2022 5:27:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: brookwood
Uh huh. First of all, your anecdotal "I heard sirens every day" isn't an argument, it is an opinion, or a perception. Second, did you actually SEE the 500 "unclaimed" bodies in those trucks? Do you KNOW that they were overflow "COVID" deaths of some sort, or did you just hear it from Chris Cuomo on CNN? I remember at the same time, hearing the stories about "mass graves" being dug on Riker's Island. That was more fear porn, as those "mass graves" have been dug on Riker's Island for decades, to bury people who die in NYC with no known relatives, or means of paying for a burial.

Here's a simple question: If the "vaccines" and masks are so effective, why is it that the hordes of homeless (who aren't masking or "vaccinated" to any significant degree) in cities all over the country aren't dropping like flies? And why is it that the number of "cases", "deaths", and transmission rate of "COVID" is essentially the same around the country, regardless of the percentage of the population that is "vaccinated"? And why is it that the CDC reported something like 34,000,000 to 60,000,000 flu cases (and an average of around 35,000 flu deaths) every year, until 2020, when magically, there was something like 1,280 flu deaths?

I'll help you out: because EVERYTHING about "COVID" is a LIE. You should read this, since you're a New Yorker. By the way, I live 30 minutes outside of NYC, and worked there for several years, and up until the "COVID" idiocy, went into Manhattan at least occasionally. There are ALWAYS sirens blaring there.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-1-9-end-stage-covid-craziness-in-new-york

115 posted on 01/10/2022 7:58:32 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Adder
re: your doctor: He won’t change his mind tho...they are all threatened not to do so.

...and hospitals are paid handsomely by the government to report Covid cases and deaths on their premises. There's a huge incentive to have people in the ICU on ventilators rather than encourage simple remedies beforehand. I hear it's impossible to get a prescription for ivermectin in the United States from mainstream doctors.
116 posted on 01/10/2022 8:09:40 AM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: HypatiaTaught
I saw that there was a new 'variant' afoot, called Deltacron. A combination of Delta and Omicron. Originated in Cyprus. Get ready for more fear, more hysteria, and more lockdowns. Also universal mailed ballots forever. Think we'll take back the House this year? LOL.

This madness will not end until the American people stand up and resist. I'm tending to believe this will never happen. Pardon my pessimism.
117 posted on 01/10/2022 8:27:24 AM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Louis Foxwell
'Someone' is employing lies, fear, and hate as a means to herd humanity toward 'something'. Satan is the someone and he has too many helpers doing the lying, fear porn and promoting division which raises hatred for the un-jabbed. We are at the end times ... be ready for the great snatching away. And if you are not snatched away, be ready for the unimaginable catastrophe qand chaos which will result in the snatching away.

The events and hallmarks of our now appear to be political, but they are the events of a spiritual war heating up.

118 posted on 01/10/2022 8:52:57 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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