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Supreme Court ruling on mandates may depend on how the justices value vaccines
CNN via WFSB ^

Posted on 01/08/2022 7:54:48 PM PST by matt04

As the Supreme Court debated federal authority to impose a vaccine requirement on workers, the nine justices could not help but reveal their varying sentiments about the depth of America's Covid-19 pandemic and the value of vaccines.

"We know that the best way to prevent spread is for people to get vaccinated," Justice Elena Kagan said, "and to prevent dangerous illness and death is for people to get vaccinated. That is by far the best. The second best is to wear masks."

That view was not universally shared.

Justice Clarence Thomas, a conservative, took a different tack than liberal Kagan regarding the sweeping rule the Occupational Health and Safety Administration seeks to impose.

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During the dramatic special hearings that lasted nearly four hours, the conservative-dominated court appeared ready to reject the Biden administration's vaccine-or-test requirement for large employers but perhaps allow a vaccine mandate for certain health workers in Medicaid and Medicare-funded facilities.

The justices' competing vantage points and ideologies -- particularly against broad regulatory powers -- were evident throughout the session.

In more human terms, one aspect did unite most of them, as the highly infectious Omicron variant now rages: the complications of mask-wearing and when to drop it down for conversation. All justices except Neil Gorsuch wore a mask on the bench. Some removed their face coverings when they asked questions, at times fumbling to release them from their ears. Some kept them off longer than others, irrespective of whether they were asking questions.

Until Friday, only Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who has diabetes and has taken extra precautions with her health, had worn a mask during the justices' oral arguments. On Friday her seat was empty, as she participated via a feed from her chambers.

(Excerpt) Read more at wfsb.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid; mandates; scotus; vaccines
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Silly me, I thought SCOTUS role was to make decisions based on the constitution and not feelings.
1 posted on 01/08/2022 7:54:48 PM PST by matt04
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I wonder what our “wise Latina” thinks about vaccines. I’m sure she’s well read on the subject.


2 posted on 01/08/2022 7:56:44 PM PST by BipolarBob (BipolarBob's your uncle.)
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To: matt04

They are supposed to rule on the evidence that has been presented in court not the propaganda that they have been influenced by over the past two years.


3 posted on 01/08/2022 7:58:50 PM PST by fireman15
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To: matt04
"value vaccines"

The shots are Experimental Gene Therapy.

4 posted on 01/08/2022 8:05:56 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: matt04

Value vaccines?

Why am I thinking about the state of their stock portfolios? … Maybe because I don’t trust any of them? Especially the Leftwingers!


5 posted on 01/08/2022 8:06:40 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: matt04

unreal.


6 posted on 01/08/2022 8:08:19 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Deaf Smith

“The shots are Experimental Gene Therapy.”

A tax, a premium, a vaccine, whatever. These are SC justices. They are like Humpty Dumpty.


7 posted on 01/08/2022 8:10:20 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: matt04

More likely on how they view the Biden presidency. The sweaty desperation of KBS betrayed their fear that Biden’s presidency will effectively be over if his big play is rejected— after all it’s supposedly how he got 80 million votes; he was tough guy crushing the virus and he had a PLAN . Roberts may be persuadable that it is historically undesirable to have the Supreme Court launch a torpedo into the ammunition magazine of the presidency, based on separation of powers, but can he bring one of the Trump appointees along to that viewpoint?


8 posted on 01/08/2022 8:22:35 PM PST by sopo
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To: alternatives?

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

Through the Looking-Glass (1871) by Lewis Carroll

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty


9 posted on 01/08/2022 8:23:20 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: matt04

+1

The ONLY criterion should be the Justices value of our Constitution.

And if they do not value our Constitution they are unworthy of the bench.


10 posted on 01/08/2022 8:23:26 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: fireman15
That was my first take as I read the entire article.....they aren't making comments according to the evidence rather arguing propaganda they're using to base their decision on. From the get go until currently the same 'conclusions are reached'....they just don't know what evidence is accurate and what isn't....because this entire covid vaccine is still in the experimental stages.
11 posted on 01/08/2022 8:28:54 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: matt04
This reads like psyops aimed at the Justices.

Who doesn't "value vaccines" if they are real vaccines according to the decades-old definition of a vaccine?

CNN might as well have written "may depend on how the justices value science."

-PJ

12 posted on 01/08/2022 8:31:47 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Brian Griffin

Great minds think alike— Alice is all the rage, check out the latest article on The Conservative Tree House.


13 posted on 01/08/2022 8:36:22 PM PST by sopo
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To: Political Junkie Too

Good point. Seems like CNN may be a bit panicked that SCOTUS will shoot this down.


14 posted on 01/08/2022 8:36:27 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: sopo

I’m assuming KBS refers to Sotomayor, Kagan and Breyer? They really seemed desperate to help Biden, particularly Sotomayor and Breyer from when I listened.


15 posted on 01/08/2022 8:41:55 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: caww

They ignore the fact that viruses burn out. Rather than present nature as it is they pretend crisis as an excuse to justify an unprecedented heavy hand of government.


16 posted on 01/08/2022 8:42:15 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: matt04

Silly me. I thought the only thing they are to depend on is the Constitution in a one-size fits all ruling.

How stupid of me.

Folks, we are well and truly screwed and nor recovering.


17 posted on 01/08/2022 8:44:45 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: matt04
CNN may be panicked at how uninformed the liberal Justices were on this matter, and fear they will be shamed into siding with the conservatives over their proven ignorance during oral arguments.

CNN is signaling to the Justices that they will give them a pass on their poor showing after the ruling.

-PJ

18 posted on 01/08/2022 8:44:56 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: matt04

Kagan raged, Breyer squeaked “we don’t really need a stay, you’re not asking us to issue a stay,” Sotomoyor just lied.


19 posted on 01/08/2022 8:46:20 PM PST by sopo
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To: Cboldt

It’s insane with people actually talking about ‘which variant’ they had or have like they can tell the difference when even the covid tests can’t discern the difference.

If you get the sniffles it could just be as easily a cold...if body aches and loss of smell, which goes with stuffy nose, could be flu and there’re various degrees and kinds of those as well.

It’s just too insane now!


20 posted on 01/08/2022 8:48:03 PM PST by caww ( )
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