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Rumors swirl that Manchin could defect from the Democratic Party after he sank Biden's Build Back Better spending plan
Business Insider ^ | 12/20/2021 | Business Insider

Posted on 12/20/2021 10:12:05 AM PST by TexasGurl24

Sen. Joe Manchin's bombshell decision to sink President Joe economic agenda has reignited rumors that he may defect from the Democratic Party next year.

Axios reported early Monday that people around Manchin are discussing him leaving. It did not name any.

Those sources said Manchin would prefer to be an independent and caucus with Democrats — the same arrangement as Sen. Bernie Sanders — than to fully switch sides and join the Republicans.

The conservative West Virginia senator on Sunday said he could not support Biden's $1.75 trillion "Build Back Better" spending plan and told Fox News: "I can't get there. This is a no."

Axios reported that the move has triggered further speculation, as well as a desire among Democrats to punish Manchin.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: biden; buildbackbankrupt; buildbackbetter; buildbackbroke; demagogicparty; democrats; gop; joebiden; joemanchin; manchin; senate; uniparty; westvirginia; xiden
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1 posted on 12/20/2021 10:12:06 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

Er, sure. He’s going to change from a RAT Senator everyone wants to influence to another go along, get along RINO. You bet. Manchin wants to be another Romney. Sure.


2 posted on 12/20/2021 10:14:03 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: TexasGurl24

“Conservative senator”

LOLOLOLOL


3 posted on 12/20/2021 10:14:51 AM PST by alternatives?
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To: TexasGurl24

Cocaine Mitch approves this message.

4 posted on 12/20/2021 10:16:15 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Seruzawa

Manchin the linguini-spined.


5 posted on 12/20/2021 10:16:28 AM PST by sauropod (Meanie Butt Daddy - No you can't)
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To: TexasGurl24

Well the political calculation for him is his constituents feel he’s in the wrong party.

And he’ll never be elevated in the Democrat party, it’s too radical.

Politically, I’m not sure we gain by him switching now.


6 posted on 12/20/2021 10:16:49 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Seruzawa

They claim this everytime that he resists a liberal bill, and he comes out and angrily denies it everytime. He hasn’t defected yet, and frankly our party doesn’t need another fake republican in it. He is still a liberal and supports nearly every liberal cause no matter how radical practically- he’s not switching parties


7 posted on 12/20/2021 10:16:53 AM PST by Bob434
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To: sauropod

He’d fit right in with our stable of jellyfish GOPe Senators!


8 posted on 12/20/2021 10:18:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasGurl24

The BBB plan was never a Biden bill or proposal.

It was thought up by the most liberal or progressive members of the democrat party, aka: the socialists.

Biden doesn’t have the mental capacity to think of anything, damaging or helpful to the economy or the country.

He is being used to promote the plan, but is completely out of the loop when it comes to its design or plans for implemtation, other than talking it up.


9 posted on 12/20/2021 10:19:18 AM PST by adorno
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To: TexasGurl24

IF he does, that doesn’t mean he becomes a Republican.

He would be smart to go Independent. Sinema could join him. They would be The Deciders on EVERYTHING, more power than either R or D leader.


10 posted on 12/20/2021 10:20:43 AM PST by bigbob
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To: TexasGurl24

1..2.. 3...before he denies rumor...


11 posted on 12/20/2021 10:21:46 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: TexasGurl24

Depending on West Virginia’s primary rules, Manchin might be in danger of being ousted in a primary. He’s best off playing Hamlet, as the Dems have no way to punish him long term.


12 posted on 12/20/2021 10:21:53 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: adorno
There are actually people at FR that don't believe that Obama is running the show (probably via Harris). Biden doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his butt.
13 posted on 12/20/2021 10:24:08 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (It's becoming more difficult to tell the difference between a RINO and a Marxist.)
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To: TexasGurl24

If Manchin is going to run for re-election in 1924 (big if), he has no hope except to switch parties.

Trump carried W.Va by 39 points in 2020.

Except for Manchin, there are zero Dems in the W.Va. Congressional Delegation.

Except for Manchin, there are zero Dems that hold statewide office in W.Va.


14 posted on 12/20/2021 10:24:09 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: TexasGurl24

Everyone has a “Line in the sand”.


15 posted on 12/20/2021 10:24:14 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Bob434
Him leaving the Democrats, becoming an independent, but still caucusing with the Democrats accomplishes nothing for us.

However, if he actually changed parties and became a Republican, Chuck Schumer would no longer be the majority leader. No matter what some folks think about Mitch McConnell, he is still better than Chuck Schumer. And also means that every committee in the Senate would go from being majority Democrat to majority republican. It would essentially stop right in its tracks anything significant Biden wanted to do in 2022.

It would be huge.

16 posted on 12/20/2021 10:24:17 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: TexasGurl24

Just what deplorable patriots need - Manchin joining the Liz Cheney wing of the “party”.


17 posted on 12/20/2021 10:24:49 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I agree.


18 posted on 12/20/2021 10:26:33 AM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
No matter what some folks think about Mitch McConnell, he is still better than Chuck Schumer.

Um, nope. I used to think that, no more though.

Schumer is the enemy outside the party, and McDoodle is the enemy within. The latter is more insidious, and arguably more dangerous.

19 posted on 12/20/2021 10:26:33 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: TexasGurl24

He probably wants the threat to be floating around in the public space, even if he has no current intention, and he may even issue a denial. But the option will nonetheless be in the front of everyone’s mind.

You use all the leverage the situation affords.


20 posted on 12/20/2021 10:27:38 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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