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'If you're on this call, your employment here is TERMINATED': CEO of mortgage lender Better.com lays off 900 workers in Zoom call - then calls them so lazy they were effectively 'stealing' from customers
Uk daily mail ^

Posted on 12/06/2021 4:36:36 AM PST by outpostinmass2

The CEO of an online mortgage lender fired 900 of his employees in a brutal Zoom call - then slammed them for being so 'lazy' they effectively 'stole' from customers.

Vishal Garg axed around nine per cent of Better.com's workforce last Wednesday - three weeks before Christmas - including its entire diversity, equity and inclusion team, which deals with complaints about racism and sexism in the workplace.

Garg told them bluntly: 'This isn't news that you're going to want to hear...If you're on this call, you are part of the unlucky group that is being laid off. Your employment here is terminated effective immediately.'

Garg, who has been accused of being 'erratic' by workers, later doubled-down in a scathing blog post which saw him lay into his staff for 'stealing' through laziness.

The father-of-three wrote on professional network Blind: 'You guys know that at least 250 of the people terminated were working an average of 2 hours a day while clocking 8 hours+ a day in the payroll system?'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: better; bettercom; business; diversity; employment; fired; h1b; newyork; tiktok; vishalgarg; youtube; zoom
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To: outpostinmass2

“He fired the entire diversity, inclusion and equity department. Good. I think a lot of people are taking advantage of “working from home””

Now they can be woking from home.


41 posted on 12/06/2021 6:02:59 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

I got laid off by a boss who didn’t see me rattling the keyboard when he’d walk past my office door and decided I was unproductive. In fact is I was running macros and being far more productive than my coworkers who didn’t know a macro from a keystroke (this was back when you couldn’t do more than one thing at a time on a computer). After I left they hired three people to replace me.


42 posted on 12/06/2021 6:06:20 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: outpostinmass2

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I agree. Is he an arrogant dumbass? Were the other people who were fired really the worst, most lazy employees? I don’t know. Maybe yes, maybe no.

But there is one thing you can say with absolute certainty: Every single person who’s job was dealing with diversity, equity and inclusion was an utterly useless drain on the bottom line. They served no purpose whatsoever.


43 posted on 12/06/2021 6:07:03 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Lazamataz
*I* didn't fix the issue, it was a very deep technical team that did. I simply pointed out where I saw the issue start and the pattern that it was happening in.

The rest was assembling the right team to look at it and even then it took almost two days to nail down what was causing the problem. (Lack of proper tooling to find the issue quickly kept causing us delays.)

We're in the early stages of getting Dynatrace implemented and that would've found the issue in minutes for us, even in our very large (20,000+ servers, thousands of microservices and a highly segmented & secured) environment. Broad based agreement on that conclusion.

44 posted on 12/06/2021 6:12:34 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Thats exactly why and when I decided to retire!


45 posted on 12/06/2021 6:13:33 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
I'm just trying to hang on until Dec. 15th, then I'm off until Jan 4th.

Lack of taking meaningful vacation time this year hasn't helped.

46 posted on 12/06/2021 6:15:06 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: billyboy15
There is a phrase relating to employees saying, “eighty percent of the work is produced by twenty percent of the workforce”.

I think it is often more dramatic than that - especially in software. Gifted employees can accomplish in a hour what it would take normal employees two weeks or more to do. And yes, sometimes these creators are free spirits who will work hard for that hour, do nothing much the rest of the day, then come back tomorrow and put in another spectacularly productive hour. In a week, these individuals can accomplish what regular employees could not do in six months - yet they are more likely to get fired by the "face time" bosses while the slugs remain safely ensconced in their cubicles.

The ability to conform to a work style is often deemed more important than talent.

On the other hand, this CEO is absolutely right - far too many people make a career out of handling a few minor tasks in as little time as they can get away with. Anybody who has spent time in a big corporation knows how much deadwood is being carried along by the tides, year after year - and even more so now in the era of mandatory diversity.

47 posted on 12/06/2021 6:15:54 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: RinaseaofDs

Wow! Except for that one good boss, sounds like you were in the midst of a lot of nonsense!

Tata is a mess. Pyramid really pissed me off, too, I won’t work with them. Deloitte CAN be good, I’ve seen them succeed.

In general, I find that if an American leads the offshores (and onshores) it can succeed wildly, if that American has experience leading these kind of teams. I am developing that skill... I am getting through the cultural differences. It’s working.


48 posted on 12/06/2021 6:16:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: usconservative

Dude, if you are adopting Dynatrace, know that I am a pro in that tool. Example: I’ve written console apps that poll Dynatrace’s (vast) db and pull out peak requests per hour for all our services, finding the spikes so we can look at resiliancy. Ditto response times. If you guys need me, I ain’t cheap but I am beyond excellent.

And that’s just one aspect of my skillset. You guys would be very happy with the Laz. :)


49 posted on 12/06/2021 6:24:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Lazamataz

In general, I find that if an American leads the offshores (and onshores) it can succeed wildly, if that American has experience leading these kind of teams. I am developing that skill... I am getting through the cultural differences. It’s working.


You have any experience in the work place with kids of H-1B tupes yet? I imagine a lot of those folks are going to be taking the “American” positions sooner rather than later.


50 posted on 12/06/2021 6:25:04 AM PST by lodi90
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To: usconservative

Oh and BTW, having a sense WHERE the problem lies is a skillset in and of itself. You have that instinctual ability, clearly. That is extremely valuable.


51 posted on 12/06/2021 6:25:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: lodi90
I imagine a lot of those folks are going to be taking the “American” positions sooner rather than later.

I disagree. There always needs to be a liason between the American customs and ways of doing business, and the offshore culture and mentality. I'm succeeding in this role, but no H1B can take it over.

52 posted on 12/06/2021 6:28:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I think it is often more dramatic than that - especially in software. Gifted employees can accomplish in a hour what it would take normal employees two weeks or more to do.

DUDE, this is ME. I guess that means I'm gifted.

Back in the day, I'd do that little bit of work and they were happy. Nowadays, I do that little bit of work, THEN adopt new projects without being asked. I spend the time these days. The results are great.

53 posted on 12/06/2021 6:29:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: usconservative
I'm just trying to hang on until Dec. 15th, then I'm off until Jan 4th.

SLACKER!

lol

54 posted on 12/06/2021 6:30:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Will my mortgage refinance phone calls now increase or decrease?

Probably increase as the ones not calling you have just been replaced by ones that will.

55 posted on 12/06/2021 6:31:16 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 79 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: cuban leaf
My manager when I first entered it in 1983 had a plaque on her wall that said this: “nobody, on their deathbed, ever said,’I wish I’d spent more time at work’”.

You had a good manager. I had one like that recently. I liked her so much, I call her a friend.

56 posted on 12/06/2021 6:32:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: outpostinmass2
including its entire diversity, equity and inclusion team, which deals with complaints about racism and sexism in the workplace.

Good. It should be the first department axed in every corporation.

THAT is what has been stealing money from the company and hindering its operations.

57 posted on 12/06/2021 6:37:01 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: outpostinmass2

Wait, wat? He fired the diversity, inclusion and equity department for being lazy. No way. /s


58 posted on 12/06/2021 6:41:00 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: dgbrown

So many people have been gaming the system. It’s always easy to tell. They are the ones that you can’t reach spontaneously for live calls, and their work comes in short bursts at predictable times. There are obvious gaps in their coverage, if you look back over it - i.e. they are faking hours covered and in essence robbing from the company, doing the bare minimum.


59 posted on 12/06/2021 6:42:59 AM PST by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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To: outpostinmass2

A lot of it is loaf from home.


60 posted on 12/06/2021 6:43:14 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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