Posted on 12/03/2021 5:43:02 AM PST by marcusmaximus
In his first sit-down interview since the shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the New Mexico set of his film Rust, an emotional Alec Baldwin gave a detailed timeline of exactly what happened that day, and broke down in tears while remembering Hutchins.
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“She was standing next to the camera, looking at a monitor … guiding me for how to hold the gun for this angle,” Baldwin said. “The gun wasn’t meant to be fired in that angle. I am holding the gun where I was told to hold it, which was right below her armpit. An angle that might not be filmed at all.”
Baldwin says that Hutchins told him to begin cocking the hammer for a particular shot.
“I pulled the hammer as far back as I could without cocking the gun,” Baldwin said. “I let go of the hammer and bang, the gun goes off.”
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Lee was killed by a squib round, not a live one. Different situations.
Actually, it does, depending on model of revolver and configuration of the hammer. If there is no “decocking stop” or “trigger safety,” then it is possible to fire by pulling the hammer back and letting it go.
Still a distraction from his negligence. He is one of several people who is supposed to confirm the firearm is safe on the set.
This is California “murder” requires premeditated actions and a depraved mind. Unintentional homicide, intentional homicide,or negligent homicide would be the max charges that any DA could hope for. There is precedence with actors shooting and killing another actor or set member the most recent and high profile was Brandon Lee during the filming of the Crow. The actor who fully pointed a loaded 44 caliber weapon with a live round in it and shot him dead was never charged for it because actors are not typically in the safety chain protocols for on set cold weapons. Regardless what the internet blowhards say this is sound legally verifiable precedence in the same legal jurisdiction of California no less.
JD,
You wordered that perfectly, thank you.
The replica company did make both. Do they still? It would be interesting if the Glamorous Professional Armorer’s of Hollywood choose weapons without transfer bars. Or failed to replace with replicas containing antiquated actions with updated and safer actions.
That’s industrial lawsuit fodder right there.
I wonder how many armors in Hollywood or production companies are now scrubbing their inventory of single action pistols ensuring that none of those pistols contained in their collections have antique SA technology?
Gee...lemme try that hammer thing with my revolver and see what happens.
No there was a bullet left in the barrel from an earlier scene. Which the armor didn’t do their job and clear the barrel for it. Either way it’s not the aactor who clears the weapons they do not load or unload any rounds EVER it is only the armor who does this. They get the weapons from the approved cart or directly from the armors hands they do not open them and check them again as that breaks the chain or custody of the rounds that are in the weapon. I don’t know why people who have never been on a set before seem to think actors some of the dumbest people on earth should be charged with the responsibility for weapons protocols. There is a reason professional armors are used typically former law enforcement or military guys are the armor.
So it was a live bullet stuck in the barrel that killed Brandon Lee and the armor failed to clear that obstruction before loading a live blank behind it. The effect is the same the blank formed a pressure seal and launched that in barrel obstruction at lethal force. It was 100% on the armor to clear that weapon this is why the actor has zero liability and why nearly all actors do in these cases they are not qualified nor tasked with weapons protocols.
A squib is a tragic and rare thing. That’s why whenever there’s any of kind misfire or weird sound while shooting you stop and check the barrel.
I can’t really say it’s the same as this. Baldwin’s only claim to innocence is someone said ‘Cold gun’ at him. I don’t particularly expect an actor for not double checking. However, I also don’t think a negligent discharge like this comparable too Lee’s case. It’ll be up to a jury for sure. I’d convict him and the armorer on negligent homicide at least.
Externally the two replica revolvers look identical the only way to tell the difference is the model numbers and serial numbers. It would be super easy for a gun to go down for mechanical issues and the company to tell someone who is not an armor but a purchasing agent to go get another one then that person goes off without knowing there are two models of the same gun and gets the historically accurate version when they had the safe one before. Lots of ways one could swap one for the other and not know it unless you really looked at the model and serial.
And yes they do still make historically accurate versions I have always wanted a 44-40 in a matching set if never action rifle and single action revolver.
Why are so many people hating on the armorer? Before the blood was dried people were heaping blame on her, because they could not conceive of any other possible explanation.
I thought we conservatives were supposed to be the reasonable people?
Movie dummy rounds look exactly like real bullets. It has now been revealed that the supplier of props may have inadvertently allowed reloads to get into the material sold to the movie set. There were several stories on this on Free Republic the other day.
The Sheriff has found, I think, 4 other live rounds in the dummy ammunition that was on the set.
So what precisely is it that the Armorer did that makes people hate her so much? Was it taking the pictures of herself she took?
Don't see what that has to do with the actual problem of live bullets getting into boxes labeled "dummy ammunition."
I think we can agree that Alec Baldwin is a whole cock.
Didn’t this happen in New Mexico? I didn’t think they were filming in California.
Yep …and very few mishaps considering the quantity of rounds fired in all these movies.
Cold gun releases him from responsibility as much as people hate that it’s not his job nor is he qualified to clear a weapon. Th at rests with the armor and the armor alone. The directors jobs is to ensure the chain of custody once the armor has loaded and verified a cold weapon. If the actor opens the magazine or cylinder of the weapon the chain of custody is broken as they could ha’ve loaded or unloaded rounds into it. Under NO circumstances should an actor open the action of a declared and certified cold weapon if they do then the director’s job is to immediately call for a halt take the weapon and return it to the armor for certification as a cold weapon again. That’s how it works period full stop. People are letting there personal and political hate for this actor get in the way of well.established industry and legal precedence. Since alec is also a director but not the active director on this scene since he is actively acting there could be some liability form the director’s role had he opened the weapon. Being handed a cold gun is in the armor and only the armor. The director doesn’t open the weapon either they are to ensure chain of custody.
Any attempt by Baldwin to use your cockeyed explanation as a defense will surly indict him, and probably land him in prison for what will be, given his age, the rest of his life. I realize the FR has a storied history of self-appointed experts, but your silliness takes the cake :) Chances are he will accept a plea to a lesser charge and be given community service and/or probation and his criminal exposure will be done. His civil culpability is another matter altogether. With this explanation, he’s in deep trouble.
Not possible. The cylinder is not aligned properly until the hammer is pulls back ALL THE WAY, FULLY COCKED.
The cylinder is not aligned until the hammer is ALL THE WAY COCKED.
Your right they were on location in NM not in the studios in LA. NM has similar laws to Cali when it comes to homicides. The protocols for weapons are industry standards. Do people really think that high school drop outs which most actors are should be tasked with opening up firearms and then second guessing professional armors who in most cases have decades of experience in law enforcement or military backgrounds. These are to be second guessed by someone who barely knows how to hold a gun? Seriously that makes any sense at all. Fortunately the industry said that’s nuts we will hire professionals for that very reason. This armor if she can prove that live rounds were mixed in with blanks from the factory or distributor might have a case for dismissal of negligence. The director apparently did his job he ensured the weapons were untouched from the armor to the actors possession
I have an 1873 SAA. What he described I think is technically possible, but doesn’t seem likely to me. I think he was most likely squeezing the trigger the whole time.
Yeh, that’s how it works Alec.
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