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Rachel Maddow, Libertarian on One Issue
Townhall.com ^ | December 3, 2021 | Tim Graham

Posted on 12/03/2021 4:05:00 AM PST by Kaslin

Rachel Maddow is one of America's most popular proponents of socialism. Government is never big enough for Maddow. Bernie Sanders has a friend in Maddow. But when the subject is abortion, you will not find a more enthusiastic libertarian.

After the Supreme Court heard oral arguments on Nov. 30 on Mississippi's law banning the termination of unborn children after 15 weeks, Maddow championed lawyer Julie Rikelman for the Center for Reproductive Rights for arguing this is "about American women being forced by the government to give birth against their will." She added: "This is what the supposed small-government conservative movement has brought us, right?"

Maddow complained about "this very big government idea, the idea that the government will decide whether or not you get an abortion. The government will decide whether or not you stay pregnant. The government will decide whether or not you give birth. It's not your choice. The government gets to decide it."

This MSNBC host has one central issue when overweening government can be demonized. She has one issue where, suddenly, precedents must never be overturned, where she claims judges are acting like legislators and that Brett Kavanaugh now represents "a little mini-Congress with robes on."

The left very eagerly finds a "liberty interest" in the Constitution for the premature death of the unwanted "fetus," for their lust to "terminate a pregnancy." In general, they find "liberty" arguments in American courts or legislatures to be incredibly cynical capitalist excuses. But not when it comes to enjoying sex without consequences. Any woman who can't get an abortion after 15 weeks is now victimized and "devastated."

Maddow touted the headline on a Washington Post staff editorial: "Gutting Roe would devastate millions of Americans and the court itself." Using the word "gutting" to describe the people procuring the literal evisceration of the most vulnerable human beings is pretty sick stuff.

But the Post couldn't stop ignoring the fetus in their editorializing. They concluded any "gutting" of the Roe v. Wade precedent would result in "deep and immediate harm to millions."

Nowhere in the Maddow/Post moral calculus of immediate harm are the tens of millions of unborn children who have been gutted and devastated and poured into dumpsters and sewers since the court decided Roe in 1973. There is only a right to choose, and never a life to lose. They celebrate something called "International Safe Abortion Day." They've poked their own eyes out and called themselves the visionaries.

The legitimacy of the court is now endangered, they argue, as if legitimacy and libertinism are linked. Maddow touted the liberal justices saying, "Hey, if you do this, this will be the end of the court as we know it."

Maddow spoke next to a graphic of capitalized letters quoting Justice Stephen Breyer about the court looking like politicians: "THAT'S WHAT KILLS US AS AN AMERICAN INSTITUTION." Right above those words on screen is a poster claiming "Abortion Is Essential."

The headline on MSNBC's video page is "Supreme Court faces credibility crisis as anti-abortion justices set to fulfill purpose." We're told, "Rachel Maddow explains why the anti-abortion justices on the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade would confirm what many people already think about the court being compromised by politics."

But saying that "many people think" overturning Roe ruins the public standing of the Supreme Court is ... politics. Nobody should pretend that "The Rachel Maddow Show" isn't a soapbox for politics. The "credibility crisis" should be assigned to the liberal media, which only speaks of credibility and legitimacy and landmark decisions when they win.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: rachelmaddow; roevswade; supremecourt
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If they don't want any children than they should put a dime between their knees and squeeze the dime.
1 posted on 12/03/2021 4:05:00 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This may sound harsh but Madcow should’ve been aborted. Hey,it’s not too late.


2 posted on 12/03/2021 4:09:10 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: Kaslin

Snort......my body my choice on abortion........stops when it comes to vaccines.


3 posted on 12/03/2021 4:16:29 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Kaslin

Declaring Abortion to be a Constitutional right did a great deal to damage respect for the Supreme Court.


4 posted on 12/03/2021 4:18:43 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Kaslin

Society is not forcing women to do anything. It is trying to protect the lives of the unborn. Women are free to use contraceptives or abstain from sex if they don’t want to get pregnant. People have to forgo many things in this life if they don’t want to deal with the consequences that come with them.


5 posted on 12/03/2021 4:37:32 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Kaslin

You know that’s the thing that kills me. I got into it with a proabort the other day and they say the Shillong be forced to give birth. When I pointed out that having sex was actually a choice the visceral reaction I got was shocking. Suggesting that she was nothing but a humping rabbit unable to control her libido really didn’t help the conversation I suppose.

Here we are with another issue that brings into clear relief the difference between rational and common sense and politicization. In fact the incidence of rape (true forcible intercourse) and incest is vanishingly small. Where we have lost the language is the notion of rape being any intercourse (yes some feminists say all sex is rape) and that one can cry rape the next morning and wear it as some bizarre badge of Honor.

I think more and more that those who say he who controls the language controls the narrative. We have lost a lot of ground by assuming the definitions are the same for everyone while the left has happily absconded the language. As an example see the stupidity over pronouns.


6 posted on 12/03/2021 4:46:23 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: HighSierra5

Madcow can still help save the planet by taking her carbon footprint to zero—time for these folks to stop talking the talk and start walking the walk (or drinking the KoolAid...).


7 posted on 12/03/2021 4:48:45 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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I’m with ya.


8 posted on 12/03/2021 4:50:35 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: gas_dr

All of this makes sense when you realize that Homo Sapiens does what they want to do and then uses language to justify it after the fact.

The left is just more blatant about it.


9 posted on 12/03/2021 4:50:37 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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I'm glad the left is examining the issue of when babies become viable and able to live on their own. Hopefully they will apply that argument to 30-something welfare recipients.

Nobody should be forced to support a blob of tissue that has little better to do than sit around and smoke pot all day.

10 posted on 12/03/2021 4:54:27 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Kaslin

If only there was a pill women could take to avoid pregnancy but the Patriarchy won’t allow that


11 posted on 12/03/2021 5:01:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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I bet she’s also libertarian when it comes to Israel.

Support other counties, be involved, help, hurt, except Israel.


12 posted on 12/03/2021 5:15:38 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: HighSierra5

Just call it a Late, Late, Late Term abortion. After all anything goes in ?”Progressive” world.
Real libertarians believe that you do not have the right to interfere with the rights of others.Rights are the ability to pursue without injury to others.


13 posted on 12/03/2021 5:17:35 AM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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Liberals did this to themselves. A few years ago there were Dems running around saying abortion was OK up to the point where the baby was crowning. Some were willing to go a bit past that! They have been strangely silent recently…


14 posted on 12/03/2021 5:42:55 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Cecily

I have recently wondered why bc pills are not, now, otc meds. Oh, gosh, that would really cut the $$$ off from PP....and end that part of the abortion industry.


15 posted on 12/03/2021 5:49:36 AM PST by Pigsley (I)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Libertarians are not fighters.


16 posted on 12/03/2021 6:17:20 AM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: Kaslin

Is this like forcing me to get vaxxed?


17 posted on 12/03/2021 6:38:38 AM PST by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God., Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins.)
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To: HighSierra5

I’m afraid it is TOO late.. I loved the arguments that woman from the abortion organization - forgot the name - made. Women in MS don’t have insurance and they can’t afford to have babies nor can they afford contraception products!!! That should insult every woman in MS. Besides, I thought AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE aka obamacare was available to anyone and everyone who wanted it..

Babies must be sacrificed because of the burden of having a child puts on a woman; employment, social standing etc.

Do they ever answer the question of would they prefer their own mothers had abortions? We sure wish that was the case in MANY cases. Such imbeciles.


18 posted on 12/03/2021 6:55:32 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: griswold3

“Real libertarians believe that you do not have the right to interfere with the rights of others. Rights are the ability to pursue without injury to others.”

Fetuses being identified as others? Right?


19 posted on 12/03/2021 7:11:59 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Thank You Rush

“Do they ever answer the question of would they prefer their own mothers had abortions?”

I never really understood that question. That’s trying to bend an argument that is based on pretzel logic back into a straight line.

And the reason I say this is to a leftist mind wouldn’t you think that their argument to that question would be “well if I was never born how would I ever know what I would feel about that scenario.”

Societies exist because people have to be civil to other people for that Society to even function.

People go to jail because they are uncivilized towards others. Crime is uncivilized behavior. Bastiate waxes eloquently on civil and societal mores.

Civil society’s remove people from that society who cannot function within that civil society.

You know the more discussions I have along subjects such as these the more I think that only tax-paying owners of Real Estate should be allowed to vote. They got more skin in the game and it probably took a bit of Civility to get where they’re at... then again absolute power and all that...


20 posted on 12/03/2021 7:22:42 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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