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To: DoughtyOne

How about ALL workers? Don’t office workers, truck drivers, retail clerks, etc have the same rights as healthcare workers?


5 posted on 11/30/2021 3:19:35 PM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Soul of the South

Good question...

I’m not sure how broadly that might affect everyone.

Your point is valid > IMO.


6 posted on 11/30/2021 3:21:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: Soul of the South

There is already a court ruling regarding those workers regarding the OSHA mandates. This is for Hospitals covered under CMM and HHS rules. They tried to say that because they administer payments of medicare and medicaid to the hospitals, that this empowers them to tell Hospitals to force them to order their employees to get the shots fire or get fired, or else there will be no more federal dollars.


9 posted on 11/30/2021 3:29:23 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: Soul of the South; DoughtyOne
How about ALL workers? Don’t office workers, truck drivers, retail clerks, etc have the same rights as healthcare workers?

Yes.

However, this was a lawsuit against a specific rule implemented by the Center for Medicare/Medicaid Services (CMS). This rule only covered health care workers.

All other workers are covered by OSHA (I think), and I believe that rule has already been blocked.

10 posted on 11/30/2021 3:29:44 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Soul of the South

How about ALL workers? Don’t office workers, truck drivers, retail clerks, etc have the same rights as healthcare workers?
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Whole situation s*cks! Brandon said no mandates as they were unConstitutional, yet here we are...I am no expert, but I have been trying to cover the issue closely.

Not sure it is so much a matter of rights of healthcare workers.

The healthcare industry has been held hostage by CMS—the feds are holding the Medicare and other funds hostage if the hospitals et. al. don’t mandate that all volunteers, 3rd- party contractors, employees (even remote) get the clot shot. Some states are allowing exemptions, some are trying not to, but I believe judges have stepped in. So the OSHA ruling had little effect on hospitals, nursing homes, etc. as they get huge percentage of funding from Medicare/Medicaid.

I think concern has been growing because of Emergency Rooms and Neonatal units closing, and some elective procedures being curtailed because these heroes of last year were being fired. Bringing in the military and FEMA to replace fired skilled long-time healthcare workers really is not very reassuring to patients...and that is what Brandon and Blue State governors are doing.

So this is a victory for today; however, this is all preliminary—I know hospitals are beholdin’ to big pharma, so I am sure there will be some sort of appeal if not from Feds, then from the medical industrial complex.

It is terrible to lose a job (I have family in healthcare and one in private sector who are facing this), but to lose a loved one because short/no staff or the hospital lawyers and docs preventing patient’s family to have Ivermectin administered is a tragedy on a whole other level. There have been a number of posts about hospitals actively fighting against prescribing Ivermectin. I live near 3 of them.

Re other career fields, I believe the OSHA injunction should be covering at least some other areas; however, I am not sure how much leverage OSHA has over some private employers which may be pushing the clot shots. May be a state issue? Talk to Liberty Council for more information? I know there is an OSHA injunction in place from the 5th Circuit.

All mandates should be thrown out!!! And they probably will be, but not before many such as military have acquiesced to the clot shots which is probs why Brandon said ignore the court ruling from the 5th Circuit—and he may say same about this ruling today re CMS :(

But for me, today is a day to be happy about the OSHA ruling for companies with more than 100, and the CMS ruling—a victory for We The People...Healthcare workers and patients.

Tomorrow is another day, and probably another fight.

FREEgards.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.


17 posted on 11/30/2021 4:05:26 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: Soul of the South

Apparently our military heroes have no judicial support (yet)!


22 posted on 11/30/2021 5:45:51 PM PST by matthew fuller (Resist this coercion like it’s slavery. It is. Kevin Homer, MD)
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