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If the vaccine works so well, why is COVID-19 surging again in Pa.?
Pennlive ^ | 30 November A.D. 2021 | David Wenner

Posted on 11/30/2021 4:37:34 AM PST by lightman

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To: Caipirabob

“I posted direct data just yesterday”

From where, exactly. There is NO independent 3rd party source of data available in the US, only pure propaganda put out by the CDC, NIH and other POLITICAL organizations.

Why are does the “data” from these groups stand out in stark contrast from that of Britain, Israel, Poland, Peru, India, etc.?

There is no efficacy or protection proven by these gene modification therapies. They are vaccines just like a B12 shot is a vaccine (which, by the new definition on what a vaccine is a B12 shot IS, in fact, a vaccine).

We have been lied to and conned into believing this magic juice will save us from the boogie-man.


21 posted on 11/30/2021 6:00:10 AM PST by wrench
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To: lightman

Hey, hey, hey, there are still a few of us left out here, who are vaccinated 3x.


22 posted on 11/30/2021 6:03:06 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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This is crushing:
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/moderna-ceo-says-vaccines-likely-less-effective-against-omicron-ft-2021-11-30/

CEO Moderna says current vax will not stop Omicron. His people are telling him there is no world in which the vax is as good as against delta, and there is just no way it is going to be good. A tailored vax will absolutely be needed ASAP, and it may be futile because this variant and its mutation total has appeared 2 years before any model predicted. A new vax maybe can’t complete testing before the next appears.

This CEO said this only hours after “current vaccines provide a degree of protection” from Biden. haha degree = 2%. They will somehow punish him for this.


23 posted on 11/30/2021 6:04:58 AM PST by Owen
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To: Caipirabob

Regardless of age, hardly NO ONE dies from COVID, period!

THAT IS A FACT! I have had COVID 2 times in 18 months, each time recovering faster and no symptoms.

The gene therapy called “vaccine” does NOTHING!


24 posted on 11/30/2021 6:05:10 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: Dr.Deth

LMAO!!


25 posted on 11/30/2021 6:11:32 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I don’t get why this is so hard to understand. Almost everyone recovers from covid, and this is people of every age.


26 posted on 11/30/2021 6:26:11 AM PST by TooBusy
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To: lightman

because it was designed for AIDS ?


27 posted on 11/30/2021 6:48:22 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: lightman
I live in northwestern Pennsylvania and an acquaintance is a nurse in the critical care unit in a local hospital. He said for the past few weeks there have been a high number of patients with “covid.” He said one week the numbers were higher than the peak previously.
But, I'm noticing people with colds and sinus issues that I didn't see last year so I'm wondering how many of the “covid” cases could just be the seasonal flu.
28 posted on 11/30/2021 6:49:16 AM PST by dis.kevin (Dry white toast)
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To: lightman
Since they are not permitted to publish anything saying that the vax doesn't work, the conclusions drawn by this article are no surprise at all.

A truly enterprising journalist would press these medicrats for hard numbers re: how many vaccinated folks have died of COVID. I have not seen that number anywhere.
29 posted on 11/30/2021 6:55:04 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
It will be hard to differentiate between a reduction due to the vaccines and a reduction due to natural immunity since they are not tracking that data.

And a reduction due to the fact that many of the most vulnerable folks have already been killed by COVID.

It's not unreasonable to look at this data and conclude that the vax is having no appreciable impact.
30 posted on 11/30/2021 6:56:39 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Caipirabob
What conservatives need to do is champion freedom of choice on taking the vaccine and fight totalitarian mandates from lefttard idiots.

On that we can agree. The focus of the fight should be on the mandates. Unfortunately, the best argument for not mandating the shot is that the shot is only modestly effective and comes with a raft of potential side effects and unknowns.
31 posted on 11/30/2021 6:59:55 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Caipirabob

How about stats on Natural immunity vs vaccines? I would imagine natural immunity to be greater immunity as the vaccines try to copy this but can NOT copy the entire virus process from beginning to the end.


32 posted on 11/30/2021 8:45:12 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: C210N

Science and Fauci will prevail! The Faucian and FR scientific zealots doth proclaim: Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly, there is no possible way we can remain alive!


33 posted on 11/30/2021 12:02:19 PM PST by sarge83
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To: lightman

My neighbor’s brother had 2 vaccines, caught Covid and died. Funeral was last week.


34 posted on 11/30/2021 2:25:11 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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