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What the ‘Constitutional Republic’ of Oroville says about the state of American democracy
Sacramento Bee ^ | November 28, 2021 | JOSH GOHLKE

Posted on 11/28/2021 4:37:04 PM PST by artichokegrower

Democracy isn’t as popular as it used to be. Take the Oroville City Council’s overwrought recent declaration that it’s a “Constitutional Republic City,” which is steeped in creeping disregard for a once-presumptive American ideal. The measure declares that the council’s members and constituents need not follow the laws of the duly and democratically elected state and federal governments in which they’re located — and upon which they’re deeply dependent — because, well, they don’t want to.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
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Because we are freemen not serfs
1 posted on 11/28/2021 4:37:04 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Democracy is nothing more than the largest possible oligarchy. 50% + 1

Stick a fork in it. Long live the Republic


2 posted on 11/28/2021 4:40:13 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: artichokegrower

town, that they would so casually dismiss any obligation to it beyond their personal and political whims.

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article255974847.html#storylink=cpy

Wow, dude, look in the mirror…


3 posted on 11/28/2021 4:41:40 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: artichokegrower

The International Symbol of Democracy

4 posted on 11/28/2021 4:48:44 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: TalBlack

Two words for this buffoon.

Sanctuary Cities.


5 posted on 11/28/2021 4:57:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: artichokegrower

It’s like huh?

These leftists implementing sanctuary cities complaining?

It’s always the same. They can do whatever they want but we cannot.


6 posted on 11/28/2021 5:02:34 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: gitmo

The International Symbol of Democracy

__________

So, is it only within France that it is considered to be a symbol of rabid, bloodthirsty anti-Catholicism?

Asking for a friend...


7 posted on 11/28/2021 5:03:12 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: gitmo

Antifa/BLM push around a guillotine.


8 posted on 11/28/2021 5:03:14 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Democracy is not an American ideal; republicanism is.

It was Woodrow Wilson who declared democracy and socialism to be “one and the same”, too.
9 posted on 11/28/2021 5:07:46 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: one guy in new jersey

No, not since the Communist Manifesto declared Catholicism among its primary enemies.


10 posted on 11/28/2021 5:09:08 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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It was Woodrow Wilson who declared democracy and socialism to be “one and the same”, too.

President Wilson is being cancelled...

NJ district to remove Woodrow Wilson’s name from high school

11 posted on 11/28/2021 5:17:01 PM PST by Rio
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Partisan Media Shill alert.
Thanks artichokegrower.

12 posted on 11/28/2021 5:20:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Stick a fork in it. Long live the Republic<

Agreed. Annoys the living crap out of me to hear it referred to by so many as a "democracy" And so many of those people get all pissed off at being corrected, even in the most mild and cordial manner.

13 posted on 11/28/2021 5:31:49 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Stand up, or bend over)
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Remember when the paper ran the very same editorial excoriating “sanctuary cities” and the city councils and mayors for picking and choosing which laws to follow?

Me, either.


14 posted on 11/28/2021 5:32:42 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“…in any great disaster, there's a Harvard man in the middle of it.” ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: P-Marlowe
Two words for this buffoon. Sanctuary Cities.

Two more words for him/her/it: "Constitutional Republic". Heh. :-)

15 posted on 11/28/2021 5:32:47 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Stand up, or bend over)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank you. Wondered if I would get to the end of the posts and had to correct that foolish statement.


16 posted on 11/28/2021 6:54:35 PM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: Rio

Thank you, news to me. I hope that movement grows legs. The left is consuming itself, a pleasure to behold.


17 posted on 11/28/2021 6:57:14 PM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: artichokegrower

SacBee is’t worth a bucket of warm piss.
NOTHING they EVER publish is of any redeeming value.

JR could lay down a standing moratorium on posting anything from any McClatchy media organ and these forums would be immediately enhanced.


18 posted on 11/28/2021 9:23:48 PM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: Olog-hai
"Democracy is not an American ideal; republicanism is."

Ah... well... no, not really, since American Democracy goes back to Day One, arguably to, yes, Thomas Jefferson.
Jefferson, of course, referred to himself as a small-r "republican", but he was also a huge fan of the "Democratic" French Revolution (you know, "the blood of tyrants"), so his Federalist political opponents called his new party the "Democratic Republicans", "Democratic" referring to the French guillotine & such.
Well, it turned out that Jeffersonians liked that word "Democratic" and began calling themselves the "Democratics" and their party "the Democracy".

And today they still do, only today they say, "our Democracy", by which of course they mean their political party, but you're not supposed to know that -- you're supposed to think that by "our Democracy" they mean the United States constitutional government.
They don't, they mean their Democratic party, for example: "Donald Trump is a threat to our Democracy."
It's true as they mean it, but of course not as you're supposed to think.

Democracy is the ideal of the Democratic party -- "the Democracy".

19 posted on 11/29/2021 3:08:06 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy.

— Elbridge Gerry, Madison Debates

(T)he first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the level of ruling class, to win the battle of democracy.

— Communist Manifesto, chapter 2

What will be the course of this revolution? Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. […]

In America, where a democratic constitution has already been established, the communists must make the common cause with the party which will turn this constitution against the bourgeoisie and use it in the interests of the proletariat—that is, with the agrarian National Reformers. …

— Friedrich Engels, “The Principles of Communism”

(I)t is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. …

— Woodrow Wilson
Never at any time did I say that the USA has no history with democracy. What I said is that republicanism (versus democracy) is the founding ideal, and is set so specifically in the Constitution.

Also take note that nowhere is democracy associated with liberty in the same way republicanism is, save of course the French Revolution and its wretched offspring/offshoots.
20 posted on 11/29/2021 10:52:27 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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