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Letters to the Editor: We're letting the 2nd Amendment destroy us. The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict proves it
LA Times ^ | Nov 22, 2022

Posted on 11/22/2021 7:12:56 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

To the editor: I was born and raised in England, and after many years in the U.S. I am still bewildered by how the 2nd Amendment has been manipulated by a powerful minority. ("Will Rittenhouse acquittal lead to more armed confrontations at protests?" Nov. 19)

The origins of this amendment, ratified in 1789, are clearly rooted in the desire to form state militias to frustrate any perceived overreach by a stronger federal government. The progenitor was the English Bill of Rights Act of 1689, which had a provision allowing the people to bear arms and possibly protect a newly formed Parliament against a misbehaving monarchy.

But somehow this original intent has morphed from allowing you to keep a slow-loading musket in your closet just in case a quickly formed militia is needed, to permitting a 17-year-old with an assault rifle slung around his neck to strut about a volatile riot area and shoot people he perceives as a threat.

I feel many in this country are so obsessed with guns and the 2nd Amendment that they cannot step back and see the mayhem they are causing.

Graham Martin, Woodland Hills

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To: where's_the_Outrage?

clearly rooted in the desire to form state militias to frustrate any perceived overreach by a stronger federal government.


What stronger federal government?? Our forefathers fought a monarchy and won. FU Graham Crackhead


61 posted on 11/22/2021 9:14:06 PM PST by centermass_socrates (RINOs belong in Africa with their friends.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

That slow loading musket of 1789 was the AR 15 of its day. Americans have always possessed weapons equal or superior to its regular military. The list goes on forever but one example... drovers on a Texas to Kansas cattle drive in 1874 were better armed than a platoon of US Cavalry.


62 posted on 11/22/2021 9:14:19 PM PST by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: GreyHoundSailor

And that’s nice. But I heard too many tell me, “well the way we used to do it back east.........’

Then go back east if it’s so wonderful. Why are you here?


63 posted on 11/22/2021 9:14:39 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Maybe the author of the letter forgets that Rittenhouse had his long-barrel rifle in full display, while his pursuer had a concealed Glock that he pulled on Rittenhouse.

Why complain about the gun that can be seen, and say nothing about the gun that cannot.

-PJ

64 posted on 11/22/2021 9:29:04 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: DJ MacWoW

What a great response!


65 posted on 11/22/2021 9:33:29 PM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: DJ MacWoW

What a great response!


66 posted on 11/22/2021 9:37:27 PM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Fido969

If he really wanted to understand the second amendment, he should read The Federalist Papers.


67 posted on 11/22/2021 9:44:18 PM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: MileHi

I have no use for people who tell me ‘that’s the way we do it in xxx’ either. I’ve lived all over the country during my time in the Navy and never used that.


68 posted on 11/22/2021 9:45:54 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: Parley Baer

He just told every crook in his area to come on over and rob him.

One of the dimmest bulbs in the store.


69 posted on 11/22/2021 9:49:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Ronald77

I hope he chokes on a cucumber sandwich.


70 posted on 11/22/2021 9:53:50 PM PST by Trump_Triumphant ( Trump will always be my President, and Jesus Christ will always be my Lord)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The Russians, after their revolution, would have called Mister Martin a counter-revolutionary and would have known how to handle him. It would not have been pretty.

Our Founders were residents of British colonies. It was their own government that was attempting to tax them without representation and followed that up by attempting to confiscate their arms.

Any attempt by our government today to repeat that tyranny should result in the same response as in 1795.

71 posted on 11/22/2021 10:39:06 PM PST by William Tell
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To: cockroach_magoo

Yeh, you’d think he would at least google when the 2nd amendment was ratified in 1791 not 1789 as stated.


72 posted on 11/22/2021 10:58:28 PM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

who cares what an Englishman thinks?


73 posted on 11/22/2021 11:05:52 PM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Parley Baer

The slave mentality runs deep. Some people would prefer to live as book licking slaves rather than free men or women. This is one of them.


74 posted on 11/22/2021 11:27:22 PM PST by sport
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To: peggybac

It embarrasses me that he is here. Send him back to England.


75 posted on 11/22/2021 11:32:04 PM PST by sport
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

” I was born and raised in England,”

STOP right there. you don’t know shite about the US.


76 posted on 11/22/2021 11:32:25 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: MileHi

Substitute southerners for Americans and New Yorkers for foreigners and you have another very true statement


77 posted on 11/22/2021 11:37:10 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This is one of the reason’s I’m not crazy about the Brits.

Apparently this stupid git didn’t get the message.

We kicked your asses out of here twice using firearms.


78 posted on 11/22/2021 11:58:03 PM PST by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The progenitor was the English Bill of Rights Act of 1689, which had a provision allowing the people to bear arms [...]

Say... Whatever happened to that provision?

Seems to have somehow gotten lost somewhere down the line.

Regards,

79 posted on 11/23/2021 12:26:20 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: wafflehouse

There was a pretty good rebuttal just a few entries down from the end of the letter to the editor:

“To the editor: When it comes to chaos and anarchy, you can’t make value judgments about the different flavors. If you accept one flavor, you’re tacitly accepting all of it.

Progressive leaders and pundits who implicitly condoned wanton street violence in the name of social justice in 2020 now express outrage when the chaos pushes back.

Is it so surprising when the government fails to maintain social order that at least some private citizens will take up the mantle? This is the basic definition of anarchy: Figure it out for yourselves.

Chaos is omni-directional. It doesn’t care about your ideological or partisan priors. Embrace it all or reject it all.

Chris Romberg, El Dorado Hills, Calif.”

Just exactly why was Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, WI that night in July 2020? And exactly what and who made him feel the need to bear arms to defend himself? The protesters had not exactly shown any reluctance (either there or previously) to destroy property or attack anyone they didn’t like. So arming himself was a reasonable precaution. The rest …


80 posted on 11/23/2021 12:35:28 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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