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Another self defense case, Andrew Coffee found not guilty on 5 counts, including murder, attempted murder
Legal Insurrection ^ | Saturday, November 20, 2021 | Kemberlee Kaye

Posted on 11/20/2021 4:47:54 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: TigersEye

If you’re sound asleep when they say “police”, which wakes you up out of REM sleep, completely disoriented, as you try to understand what was that you heard, flash bangs and gunfire erupts....yeah...his was a completely normal reaction. Unless someone is in imminent danger, these types of raids should never happen and too often result in unintended consequences
For the sheer horror of the event, the gun charges should’ve been dropped too.

Yeah, he’s in violation...the sheriff violated him and especially his gf, yet they get a pass? This isn’t justice.


21 posted on 11/20/2021 5:57:15 PM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m confused. Are we supposed to riot about this one?

Or is someone else?


22 posted on 11/20/2021 5:58:48 PM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: Steve_Seattle

He is black. I have no sympathy for police who die in SWAT raids. Those units were originally formed to deal with a very narrow range of situations and were justified. Now they are used for more mundane arrests and political harassment. They the hammer that has replaced the other tools in the police toolkit and every situation looks like a nail now. Coffee is another guy that could have been arrested outside of his house and any house search deemed necessary could have been made immediately after.


23 posted on 11/20/2021 6:11:59 PM PST by arthurus ( :covfefe >)
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To: nickcarraway

They shot here 10 times... did they hit Coffee at all??


24 posted on 11/20/2021 6:12:59 PM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: SheepWhisperer
Unless someone is in imminent danger, these types of raids should never happen ...

That's the only circumstance I can accept as a reasonable justification for No Knock Warrants/SWAT raids. And they need to be 100% sure that is the circumstance.

BTW, where is the DoJ case for violating his girlfriend's civil rights?

25 posted on 11/20/2021 6:13:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Love black coffee


26 posted on 11/20/2021 6:18:43 PM PST by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (“Salute the Marines.” - Joe )
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To: nickcarraway
Nighttime SWAT Raids should be abolished, except maybe for some very serious circumstances, like a mafia nest.
Throwing grenades into an occupied home is another atrocity we can do away with, remember that baby in a crib who got her face blown off by a flash-bang?

If it's a drug raid, turn off the water so they can flush only once, then politely serve them with a search warrant.
If the suspect starts shooting at the police then, that's a solid case.

27 posted on 11/20/2021 6:33:41 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: EEGator

The family is quite the criminal enterprise if the Indian River court case search is anything to go by. And it usually is.


28 posted on 11/20/2021 6:46:03 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: escapefromboston

He should have been charged with murder. He armed himself with a firearm, set an ambush inside his home and waited for the cops to break in so he could shoot them. /Sarc


29 posted on 11/20/2021 6:49:20 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: nickcarraway

Florida is an open records state. You can do a search on the Indian River County Clerk of Court website and find all the court cases (local) that Cofee and his dad and his grandfather have been involved in. C.F. (criminal felony) is an all too common description of the reason for their court appearances.

Yes Coffee IV had the right to defend himself and I don’t doubt he believed he was being robbed. Criminals are often targets of other criminals. Especially known drug dealers.

But the community will be a lot safer if he is sentenced and made to serve the maximum time for the gun charge.


30 posted on 11/20/2021 6:50:42 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TigersEye

The reason we need these raids is we have all these SWAT teams armed and trained as a result of the Bush Cheney WOT.


31 posted on 11/20/2021 6:53:25 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: TigersEye
I'd add that they should be certain that they're at the right address. Its been a mistake made on any number of occasions.

Duck Duck go search: "wrong address" no knock

32 posted on 11/20/2021 6:55:09 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ; - )
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To: AndyJackson

Actually they started in the ‘80s with the justification “they will flush their drugs down the toilet if we don’t get in before they have time to.”

Anyone who can flush all their drugs down a toilet doesn’t have many drugs.


33 posted on 11/20/2021 7:00:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: Tunehead54

Yep, that really irritates me too. Most of those “wrong addresses” could have been sorted out with a two minute internet search. The info was there all along.

But old fashioned police work like surveillance, to confirm the subject they want actually lives where they think he lives, is what should be done but that was discarded many years ago ... cuz, hard work, dood.


34 posted on 11/20/2021 7:06:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Resistance is not futile!)
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To: nickcarraway

Look up Ernest Martin Stevens.


35 posted on 11/20/2021 7:32:50 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: nickcarraway

I live in Vero and never remember hearing about this case. I do know that there is a crime ridden and scary part of town called Gifford that is where this happened. I drove through there once and was unwilling to go back.


36 posted on 11/20/2021 7:42:43 PM PST by tinamina
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To: escapefromboston

“Bust into someone’s house in the middle of night what do you expect to happen?”

Our STASI/KGB is doing more and more of that.


37 posted on 11/20/2021 7:46:33 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SuperLuminal

SWAT raids are the backbone of tyranny...
The LEOs have run amok since the klintoon years...

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Brings back memiries of boot jack reno & elian


38 posted on 11/20/2021 8:26:43 PM PST by thinden
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To: nickcarraway

Despite the constant negative press covfefe


39 posted on 11/20/2021 8:37:08 PM PST by xp38
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To: nickcarraway

http://veronews.com/2021/11/19/jury-finds-coffee-iv-not-guilty-on-murder-attempted-murder-charges/
Local story about the Coffee family. The father was who the warrant was for, but the son, also a convicted felon, was the shooter and will be sentenced for having a firearm.


40 posted on 11/20/2021 9:05:51 PM PST by tinamina
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