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AP: Rittenhouse trial arguments worry mental health advocates
AP ^ | Nov 18 | By SARA BURNETT

Posted on 11/18/2021 6:06:46 AM PST by RandFan

The first man Kyle Rittenhouse fatally shot on the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin, was “irrational and crazy,” Rittenhouse’s attorney told jurors at his murder trial.

Joseph Rosenbaum had been on medication for bipolar disorder and depression, and he was trying to take Rittenhouse’s rifle, attorney Mark Richards said, suggesting there could have been more bloodshed if Rittenhouse hadn’t acted.

“I’m glad he shot him because if Joseph Rosenbaum got that gun I don’t for a minute believe he wouldn’t have used it against somebody else,” Richards said during closing arguments in the 18-year-old Illinois man’s trial for killing Rosenbaum and another man and wounding a third during a chaotic night of protests in August 2020.

To some legal experts and other observers, Richards’ remarks were a smart courtroom strategy and an accurate depiction of the threat faced by Rittenhouse, who says he shot the men in self-defense. But mental health advocates heard something different: a dangerous assumption that people living with mental illness are homicidal and need to be killed, and terminology such as “crazy” that they say is pejorative and adds to the stigma surrounding mental health issues.

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1 posted on 11/18/2021 6:06:46 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Why was a 5x convicted pedophile who anally raped little boys not in prison?

Ask the experts that.


2 posted on 11/18/2021 6:07:47 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: RandFan

So the prosecution doing whatever they want and a defense not being allowed to have a defense is good for mental health. Got it!


3 posted on 11/18/2021 6:10:30 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: TigerClaws

Alex, we’ll take: what happens
when blackrobe pedophiles REMAIN in charge?


4 posted on 11/18/2021 6:11:17 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: RandFan

Watching a kid being prosecuted and slandered for escaping a blood thirsty rage mob is not good for my mental health. It makes me sick with worry for our country and society.


5 posted on 11/18/2021 6:15:40 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: RandFan

Well....I didn’t know about this one Rosenbaum guy being bi-polar.

If I were on the jury and this was laid out, with drugs in his system...it’d just take six seconds in the jury room for me to wrap up my vote. It’d change the whole dynamics of the case.

Just out of curiosity....from the other two guys....were they bi-polar as well?


6 posted on 11/18/2021 6:17:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: RandFan

Mental health experts? I quit reading right there. We really don’t need to listen to anything those shaman say.


7 posted on 11/18/2021 6:19:01 AM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: RandFan

Strange to me that such “experts” have no comment about the recent 3 plus year jailing of obvious mentally disturbed “QAnon Shaman” Jason.

But we should ONLY have sympathy for far-Left violent mental freaks, not weirdos from the Right whose worse crime was chanting, shouting and dressing crazy...


8 posted on 11/18/2021 6:19:57 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: RandFan

“I’m glad he shot him because if Joseph Rosenbaum - A SERIAL CHILD SODOMIZER - got that gun I don’t for a minute believe he wouldn’t have used it against somebody else,”


9 posted on 11/18/2021 6:20:32 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: TigerClaws

“Why was a 5x convicted pedophile who anally raped little boys not in prison?”

Probably because some “mental health expert” said he was not a threat to anyone.


10 posted on 11/18/2021 6:21:12 AM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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To: RandFan

“A dangerous assumption that people living with mental illness are homicidal and need to be killed,”

In this case he was homicidal and did need to be killed.

So there’s that.

L


11 posted on 11/18/2021 6:21:25 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: RandFan
But mental health advocates heard something different: a dangerous assumption that people living with mental illness are homicidal and need to be killed, and terminology such as “crazy” that they say is pejorative and adds to the stigma surrounding mental health issues.

This is the crap that passes for "logic" when the inmates are put in charge of the asylum.

12 posted on 11/18/2021 6:22:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: RandFan
Take due note of how the UNBIASED AP/MSM work to FRAME the topic. It is a technique that they seem to delight in applying to the non-LEFT whenever possible!

"But mental health advocates heard something different ..."

Note the lack of qualifiers in this sweeping generalization. Implicitly, this writer is saying ALL 'mental health advocates' have this monolithic viewpoint. How many such advocates has Ms BURNETT interviewed? Apparently, from the article, one; Sue Abderholden, executive director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness Minnesota.

Yep, that is a great reporter at work!

13 posted on 11/18/2021 6:24:41 AM PST by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: TigerClaws
"Why was a 5x convicted pedophile who anally raped little boys not in prison?

Ask the experts that."

Expertophobe! Why you gotta hate? /S

14 posted on 11/18/2021 6:25:13 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: RandFan

An outright political trial. Make no mistake about it.


15 posted on 11/18/2021 6:28:06 AM PST by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: RandFan

“Mental Health” experts should indeed be worried. Trials like this could expose the fact that they are generally incompetent to deal with severe mental illness, and that fact that their incompetence not only harms the public but harms the mentally ill as well.


16 posted on 11/18/2021 6:29:23 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: RandFan

If Kyle had allowed Rosenbaum to get his gun, Rosenbaum would have killed Kyle first and then gone on a rampage. He would have been an active shooter. A lot more would have been dead.


17 posted on 11/18/2021 6:38:05 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop ("There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration” - Pompeo)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Great comparison—double standard on full display.


18 posted on 11/18/2021 6:39:48 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: outofsalt

Total freak.....


19 posted on 11/18/2021 6:40:55 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: RandFan

I wouldn’t assume Rosenbaum was inclined towards violence based on his mental issues alone. I would assume it based on his violent history and the fact he was shot in the hand as he tried to grab the gun.


20 posted on 11/18/2021 6:43:36 AM PST by Flying Circus (God help us )
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