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1 posted on 11/18/2021 5:34:39 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress
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The fact that this is taking three days is indicative of a severe problem on the horizon.


2 posted on 11/18/2021 5:36:36 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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bump for later


3 posted on 11/18/2021 5:37:00 AM PST by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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“Fatlock.”

🤣


4 posted on 11/18/2021 5:37:52 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm in the control group. I identify as "vaccinated".🤡)
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Fatlock claimed it was not his responsibility to provide the original HD version to the Defense and that the Defense should have noticed. That ridiculous wrong statement basically illustrates their entire prosecution, wrong at so many levels.

This has turned into a circus, the judge should have studied the mistrial motion and put the prosecution under oath and brought in video experts before this thing went sideways. The judge failed Kyle. Kyle is not getting justice.


5 posted on 11/18/2021 5:38:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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8 posted on 11/18/2021 5:44:14 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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“Our nation’s hero….”

That’s some Soviet level propaganda wording, right there.

The kid is innocent. But “Nation’s hero?” That’s a bit of a stretch.


9 posted on 11/18/2021 5:46:00 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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How can this be taking so long? Either there are committed woke-warriors on the jury, or they can’t bring themselves to acquit and endanger their families and themselves, I think.


11 posted on 11/18/2021 5:47:47 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Seems to me a hung jury is brewing.


13 posted on 11/18/2021 5:50:37 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3

The whole nation has been following this trial and we get nothing from the news morning shows.

This trial should have never gone this far.

The BLM and Antifa went on a rampage thru Kenosha, Wisconsin and they burned up buildings, rioted, looted, and damage private property and this should have been enough.

We are so tired of their behavior from BLM and Antifa.

We hope that the MSM is dead in this country right now.

14 posted on 11/18/2021 5:53:32 AM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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Has anyone really seen or understand the high definition video on the TV and what it shows or does not show?


15 posted on 11/18/2021 5:53:43 AM PST by hollywood12345
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16 posted on 11/18/2021 5:54:04 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Yesterday the jury asked if they can see the videos and play them back without limit.

The Judge is still trying to deal with the high-res vs. low-res drone video problem.

Since the high res version of the drone footage was never entered into evidence, only the low res version was entered by the defense, the Judge cannot give the high res version to the jury.

The high res version more clearly shows that Kyle did not point his gun at anyone prior to being chased by Rosenbaum, which undercuts the prosecution’s argument that Kyle provoked the chain of events.

One of four things are going to happen:

1) The jury returns a verdict of not guilty, and everybody is off the hook.

2) The jury returns a guilty verdict on at least one charge, or lesser included crimes, and Kyle has potential reversible error on appeal.

3) The Judge calls a mistrial, and we do this all over again.

4) The Judge calls a mistrial with prejudice, and the whole thing is over.

The Judge is not going to declare a mistrial either with or without prejudice, so the Judge is hoping for a not guilty verdict from the jury to bail him out.


20 posted on 11/18/2021 5:55:38 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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The judge needs to go to the jury room and tell them to $h1t or get off the pot. He should also remind him they’ll find nothing incriminating in the videos, and he’ll be ruling against the prosecution on them later.

In other words, prod them to do their DUTY.


30 posted on 11/18/2021 6:10:36 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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Thanks for the thread.

Putting some info in here.

Re Jump Kick Man.

There are websites claiming his name is Maurice Freeman but I don’t know if that’s true.

But consider this… Binger referred to him as “the man defense likes to call ‘Jump Kick Man’l and part of the rumor is Binger told Kyle’s lawyers after trial began that a man claiming to be Jump Kick Man contacted his office.

It also came our last night due to internet sleuths (see my vanity on the topic) that the mysterious drone footage given to the stste shortly before trial by some man of mystery appears to actually be the Tucker Carlson Fox video taken with the Fox logo cropped out. So they basically aired TV footage as evidence.

My theory is that a white hat LEO copied the drone footage. FBI remember was there with heat signature drones. Lin Wood got it and aired it on Tucker.

The state couldn’t find it so they just copied and cropped the TV footage.

Also, internet sleuths noticed the state was using what appears to be a personal computer for Klauss the ADA. It was his work computer but they didn’t use a dedicated to evidence only computer.

When the video was played from it he clicked to close it and it exposed on screen his desktop.

He has a video compression program on his computer!

https://gellerreport.com/2021/11/handbrake.html/


31 posted on 11/18/2021 6:11:06 AM PST by TigerClaws
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I think the safest outcome is for the jury to be deadlocked, with two jurors already expressing feelings of duress to force a guilty verdict. This will protect the jurors. Then the judge declares a mistrial with prejudice.

Hopefully the judge has already notified the governor to be prepared to act immediately when the mistrial is announced.

If the National Guard are deployed *first* it will make rioting much harder. Hopefully police departments will loan them lots of riot shields against projectiles. Lots of state police should be ready in the area as a reaction force.

Phone companies should be prepared to suspend wireless networks, to prevent rioter coordination.


38 posted on 11/18/2021 6:17:55 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (META - Make Everything Trump Again)
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YT link?


49 posted on 11/18/2021 6:28:24 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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My prediction is that:

Jury is deadlocked with one or two wokeers (is that a word?) that will find him guilty regardless of the evidence.

The judge will call a mistrial with prejudice. He had decided for a mistrial several prosecutor outrages ago but will only use it if the verdict is guilty or a deadlock.


51 posted on 11/18/2021 6:31:57 AM PST by bosco24 (EOD)
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When asked to comment, the judge said, “Ahhhhh. Ahhhhh . . . Ahhhhh.”


55 posted on 11/18/2021 6:35:31 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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In case anyone is interested, you can read the jury instructions here:

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/fe1459b2-7c34-4d03-8d23-43ab71b5e599/note/59bb6750-6912-4372-90d2-ce0eb485ae6e.#page=1

65 posted on 11/18/2021 6:44:17 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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For the record.....

The sin is not defending and killing

The sin is being present with a gun. Guns are not allowed anywhere for any purpose. That’s what the UK taught us


73 posted on 11/18/2021 6:48:58 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Free Republic has gone to hell is a Covid handbasket)
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