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Ted Cruz wants Texas to SECEDE if 'things become hopeless' in the US
The Hill ^ | 11/08/21 04:53 PM EST | BY SARAKSHI RAI -

Posted on 11/08/2021 2:14:32 PM PST by RandFan

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said that Texas should secede if Democrats "fundamentally" destroy the U.S. but added that "he is not ready to give up on America yet."

"If the Democrats end the filibuster, if they fundamentally destroy the country, if they pack the Supreme Court, if they make D.C. a state, if they federalize elections if they massively expand voter fraud there may come a point where it's hopeless," Cruz said while speaking at an event at Texas A&M last month.

The Republican senator was responding to a question posed by a student in the crowd who asked him how he felt about the Texas secessionist movement.

"I think Texas has a responsibility to the country, and I'm not ready to give up on America. I love this country," he said.

He also added that Texas has an added responsibility to the U.S. as it is currently "an amazing force keeping America from going off the cliff" and "keeping America grounded in the values that built this country."

However, he emphasized that the country isn't at that point where Texas would secede and while he doesn't support the movement, he "understands the sentiment behind it."

"We're not there yet, and if there comes a point where it's hopeless, then I think we take NASA, we take the military, we take the oil," the Texan said.

He jokingly added that popular podcaster Joe Rogan would be president of the newly formed state if it were independent.

The Texas Nationalist Movement or "Texit" has said their mission is "to secure and protect the political, cultural and economic independence of the nation of Texas and to restore and protect a constitutional Republic and the inherent rights of the people of Texas."

The movement's official website stated that this "means that Texans determine our own laws and not 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats in Washington. It means that we get a government that begins and ends at the borders of Texas."


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; sedition; texas
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To: RandFan

I suspect Cruz would insist that it be done by amending the constitution rather than war. I think if it were done that way then there would be no war.


21 posted on 11/08/2021 2:32:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: RandFan

I tend to think the same thing for Florida, where I’ll be moving at the end of the week.


22 posted on 11/08/2021 2:34:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: RandFan

IIRC, South Carolina has legislation pending regard seceding. Don’t know where it stands in the process, but if SC goes, so goes the south.

Charleston harbor 1861 redux?

5.56mm


23 posted on 11/08/2021 2:34:22 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

That’s what I thought but it may be a myth. There is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it. Texas vs. White was a divided court with politics (not law) ruling the day under Just. Chase. I say TEXIT, here we come!


24 posted on 11/08/2021 2:35:10 PM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: frogjerk

TEXIT!


25 posted on 11/08/2021 2:35:42 PM PST by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: RandFan

Note to Cruz: And just how will your state make up what it gets from Fedzilla?

Sort out your budget issues first otherwise your yap is writing checks your butt can’t cash.


26 posted on 11/08/2021 2:37:09 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: RandFan

I am ready for secession right now. We certainly do not have to worry about the US military.


27 posted on 11/08/2021 2:40:10 PM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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Texas has a larger GDP than Russia.


28 posted on 11/08/2021 2:42:08 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: RandFan

All the Left has wanted was to destroy the United States
impact on the rest of the world.

This would accomplish that and leave China in the cat-bird’s
seat for centuries to come. (granted, something unforeseen
could end that, but it’s the near term reality.)

If Texas and other states break away, is anyone suffering
from the delusion that the federal government would allow
them to have nuclear weapons, a portion of the current
military services, troops, equipment, aircraft, pilots,
carriers, submarines?

The blue states would retain 100% of those things.

The blue states would have their national guard units, but
that would be a far cry from the full resources our nation
has today.

The blue states would welcome China in it’s new role.

There would be no entity on the planet that could and
would oppose China.

India is up and coming, but I don’t see it has a valid
offset to what China is becoming.

This doesn’t just pertain to planet Earth either.

China will rule space.

The socialists would sign off on anything China wanted,
in the interest of peace.

The world as we know it would be dead.

The socialists would stand by and watch China march in on
the former blue states, in their new role.

Good luck with that.


29 posted on 11/08/2021 2:43:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: EastTexasTraveler
Ted says we have to wait until the Democrats get everything they want and then it's hopeless. And then we'd still have to leave in a Constitutional way.
30 posted on 11/08/2021 2:43:48 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: RandFan

I don’t support secession or CWII/RWII at this time, but I think it’s coming. I’m not sure when.

I only see one hope of this not happening and this is for the NYT and the rest of the legacy media “coming to Jesus”, i.e., change to a truth-based agenda instead of a hate-based agenda (see Tagline). Sadly, it ain’t gonna happen.


31 posted on 11/08/2021 2:45:27 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Blurb2350
-- Picture our incontinent president in a stovepipe hat. --

stovepipe diaper.

32 posted on 11/08/2021 2:45:41 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: DoughtyOne

Corrections:

1.

The blue states would have their national guard units, but
that would be a far cry from the full resources our nation
has today.

Should have read...

The red states would have their national guard units, but
that would be a far cry from the full resources our nation
has today.

2.

The socialists would stand by and watch China march in on
the former blue states, in their new role.

should have read

The socialists would stand by and watch China march in on
the former red states, in their new role.


33 posted on 11/08/2021 2:46:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: proust

Ted Cruz for President! (of Texas)


34 posted on 11/08/2021 2:46:25 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: right way right

Sure, why not. Better than Cornyn.


35 posted on 11/08/2021 2:47:04 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: RandFan; All

All the states could effectively secede from the unconstitutionally big federal government by repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments.


36 posted on 11/08/2021 2:47:05 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: RandFan

If a state as big as Texas were to leave they’d take a passel of other states with them. Just don’t forget to take the nukes also, that was Ukraine’s mistake.


37 posted on 11/08/2021 2:48:16 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: RandFan

I would like the whole South to secede.
If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.


38 posted on 11/08/2021 2:53:26 PM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: RandFan

“If the Democrats end the filibuster, if they fundamentally destroy the country, if they pack the Supreme Court, if they make D.C. a state, if they federalize elections if they massively expand voter fraud there may come a point where it’s hopeless,”....

Spit.... you would think that stealing a national election would suffice in kicking starting the azz kicking. Yet, pretty much all hat and no cattle is what I’m seeing. Where are the consequences for brazen and in your face election theft?

And don’t even get me started on “vaxxing” our little ones.


39 posted on 11/08/2021 2:53:52 PM PST by A Voice (As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end times.)
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To: proust
we'd still have to leave in a Constitutional way.

Don't worry--if Texas was serious about seceding the Feds would get very nasty and ugly very fast--just as in CWI the situation would rapidly escalate out of control.

The odds of a calm and pleasant break-up are close to zero.
40 posted on 11/08/2021 2:55:15 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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