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Freak Out as Conservatives Exit Public Schools, Abandon Reform
Thenewamerican.com ^ | 10/18/21 | Alex Newman

Posted on 10/19/2021 4:23:55 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: daler

Not in Texas they ain’t. They have no power to even suggest this, because there are really strong home-schooling and private school organizations now who have a big mailing list.


81 posted on 10/19/2021 7:17:56 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: central_va

Yeah I know...but you will still pay for the schools...


82 posted on 10/19/2021 7:30:07 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t see taking over the education of our children as a retreat, but as an advance.

We can still work to improve public Ed. I worked here to recall three of the worst school board members. The recall election will be in February.

Even if you see it as a retreat: my opinion, adults go to war. We should not send our children.


83 posted on 10/19/2021 7:34:10 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: GingisK

I beg to differ. I have fought all my life. Homeschooled all my kids through to college as well.

They are all good conservatives and vote properly.


84 posted on 10/19/2021 7:36:55 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: cotton1706

I like to say I spent 3 days willingly in high school, arguably one of the worst high schools in the nation at the time. It was so bad that a teacher named Luann Johnson wrote a book about her experiences there, it became a famous movie “Dangerous Minds” with Michelle Pfeiffer [and even a TV series with Annie Potts]. Carlmont High School.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlmont_High_School

I was in the advanced classes. The homeroom teacher said that he had to inform us even though he felt it didn’t apply to us, that we could take a test to get out of high school. I thought about it for 3 days, then quit high school and was in community college the next semester.

If I had known about this avenue I would have skipped high school altogether.

from my home page

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Here’s my modest proposal for education reform.

We have been discussing ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda and other idiocies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84

Proposal for the Free Republic High School Diploma.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316882/posts

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85 posted on 10/19/2021 8:29:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: cgbg

The Prussian Model is what public schooling has been following since the early 20th century.

“Modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver:

Obedient soldiers to the army

Obedient workers to the mines

Well subordinated civil servants to government

Well subordinated clerks to industry

Citizens who thought alike about major issues.

Schools should create an artificial national consensus on matters that had been worked out in advance by leading German families and the head of institutions. Schools should create unity among all the German states, eventually unifying them into Greater Prussia.”


86 posted on 10/19/2021 8:53:46 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: lurked_for_a_decade
I understand your sentiments but I disagree with that approach.

Employers should pay their staff to get their work done and meet the company's obligations to its customers and clients. The growth of these stupid non-payroll forms of compensation has done nothing but spawn entire bureaucracies around the delivery of these benefits to the employees and the required documentation to the government.

My approach as an employer is that I should simply pay people enough to cover these costs themselves. And if I'm particularly impressed with what a private school offers, I can have the company support the school in other ways.

87 posted on 10/19/2021 8:55:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: southernindymom
We paid the price. It cost us $100,000 to send our 3 children to private Christian schools, with a few years homeschooling and two years in public high school for two of them.

Best investment ever. Their Christian faith is intact. No problems at all like I had pre-Christ (drugs, booze, immorality, occult, dangerous lifestyle, etc.). All married fine Christian spouses.

It’s more essential to do likewise today.

88 posted on 10/19/2021 8:55:22 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: seowulf
I’ve read public schooling — one-room school houses included — took off in America after the Civil War. Previously education was the responsibility of the parents. After the CW so many men had died that the women had to work and schools came along.

Haven’t researched for confirming sources....

89 posted on 10/19/2021 9:00:58 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: cotton1706
Republicans Don’t Want to Reform Public Education. They Want to End It

Guilty as charged! End public education!

90 posted on 10/19/2021 9:04:25 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

After the civil war as you say, small community schools popped up. They weren’t compulsory though. In fact there were areas in the US that didn’t have compulsory schooling well into the 1930’s.

I remember my father telling me that Grandma would tell him, “You head off to school and learn something, but be home by noon. We have corn to hoe.”


91 posted on 10/19/2021 9:14:52 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: BlueStateRightist
In the Northeast most of the private schools are even more leftist.

Part of the reason for that is that the leftists have captured the accreditation agencies and use the accreditation process to force leftist, nihilist, and anti-Christian doctrine onto the schools.

92 posted on 10/19/2021 9:49:24 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: farming pharmer
School tax hikes, like property tax hikes (at least in my area) are done on off-month elections with as little public notice as possible.

IMHO that's done to let a small, but hard core group push these tax votes through as quiet as possible.

Exactly.

93 posted on 10/19/2021 9:53:24 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: cotton1706
Where I live there are some charter schools. In standardized testing, the charter school students outscore the regular public school students by a large margin.

The teachers' union complains that it's unfair that good students get to go to good schools, while the public schools are "dumping grounds" (the union's words) for poor students with apathetic parents.

According to the teachers' union, good students should be forced to go to public schools so that the schools' testing results will improve.

In other words, the students exist for the benefit of the schools and not the other way around.

94 posted on 10/19/2021 10:18:27 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: Persevero

My statement was not to be construed as “nobody”, but rather not enough people to matter. That can be proven to be true simply by looking at the current state of affairs.


95 posted on 10/19/2021 2:14:16 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: T Ruth

We should have vouchers that cover your education until you’re a legal adult. If you’re good at school, then that means they’ll pay all the way to college. If you’re no good, you have to pay for the last couple of years of high school yourself.


96 posted on 10/19/2021 7:02:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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