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There Has Been No Mandatory Vaccination Executive Order
American Thinker.com ^ | October 19, 2021 | Renee Parsons

Posted on 10/19/2021 2:42:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

With civic guidance and political leadership absent on the heels of multiple national crises, the entire country is now roiled in an era of massive civilian disobedience campaigns as thousands of American workers seek protection from President Biden’s flawed vaccine dictates.

If you listen to Biden’s recent incoherent statement on vaccine mandates or you are an incurable aficionado of what used to be called mainstream media, you may think there is reason to believe that a formal Presidential Executive Order mandating national Covid vaccinations had been issued. As with many Democratic initiatives, the truth and reality of Biden’s September 9th announcement are frequently at odds. There was no mention of an Executive Order despite the widespread public message that a mandatory national vaccination decree was being applied to American businesses and the non-vaccinated public. Leave it to the Democrats to exaggerate their authority as they retain utter control over the lives of Americans; not unlike committed authoritarian gangsters intent on mugging what remains of our Constitutional republic.

Soon after the alleged ‘mandate’ was announced, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi offered further proof how little the Democrats care about the American people or its economy when she announced that enforcement of the ‘mandate’ was included in the $3.5 trillion “reconciliation’ bill with a serious infraction costing employers up to $70,000 per violation and up to $700,000 for repeat offenders who dare question vaccine mandates as Unamerican.

However, a visit to the White House website on Executive Orders (Federal Register) reveals that the Biden Administration has not, to date, filed any such EO.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 995survivalrate; biden; branchcovidians; covid19; mandate; tyranny; uscode; va666ine; vaccine; vaxholes
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1 posted on 10/19/2021 2:42:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

And there is no related law.


2 posted on 10/19/2021 2:44:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Baghdad Bob is alive and well and working in the basement of the Joe Stolen White Hut. Amazing how fast they are walking back this business about “mandatory” shots, or you lose your job over the jab.

If they REALLY want to control the spread of the disease, (and I sincerely believe they do not), the proof would not be evidence that a shot had been given, but the presence of COVID-19 Wuhan virus antibodies in the blood serum. And not just a shot of monoclonal antibodies, but the kind of protection that comes from having actually contracted the disease, and recovered.

Clumsy management of the program in so many ways.


3 posted on 10/19/2021 3:15:29 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor)
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To: Kaslin

The GOP’s fault all of this! we had the chance and they F’d us all


4 posted on 10/19/2021 3:21:56 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Tell them what they want to hear with sincerity and do what is necessary )
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To: Kaslin

In the private sector, employment is usually At Will. If your boss sets a condition, and you don’t meet it, you can be out the door. I’m not at all happy about that, but the reality is that they can always walk you out at any time for any reason. They don’t need a law or an EO.

But, frankly, I’m a little surprised in the government ranks. It’s different there. They have a civil service union. Those people cannot be fired. Impossible to get rid of. And yet — with no law, no EO, no nothing — they are prepared to fire government workers who are not vaxxed. I’m really surprised that Joe can snap his fingers and make that happen.


5 posted on 10/19/2021 3:24:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: alloysteel

if our government officials really wanted to control the spread of the virus they wouldn’t have opened the border and spread hundreds of thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a so called “global pandemic”...

their actions and double standards prove they only want to control us...


6 posted on 10/19/2021 3:29:32 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s because for government employees and contractors there are EOs (14043 and 14042) with supporting laws in the FAR and agency orders, but folks are two lazy to spend five minutes looking this up so they just spout off that there are no EOs. There are no EOs for employees in the private sector, it’s true, but as you point out, you don’t really need one there.


7 posted on 10/19/2021 3:36:38 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: LambSlave

So, I get that there are EOs that require federal workers to be vaccinated or lose their job. It strikes me as a sort of “wish” by Biden to “make that happen”. There is no inherent authority in the Constitution about health requirements. But Biden is president, he wanted an EO, he got an EO, and here we are. OK.

If someone like Trump were president, could he create an EO that allowed him to fire a big percentage of federal workers? I have no idea what the basis would be. Why would it matter? Would not have to be about COVID. He could maybe just think of something. Then, all of a sudden, half the civil service people, and all of the SES people are just GONE.

Or is it only Democrat presidents who can break government unions with the stroke of a pen?


8 posted on 10/19/2021 3:52:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: Kaslin

Government by phone and pen;
Government by EO;
Government by press release;
Government by announcement.


9 posted on 10/19/2021 4:00:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If Trump tried to do this, as happened with every EO he signed, the left would file suits in a half dozen different districts in front of allied judges within 48 hours until they won an injunction against the EO. It is called "lawfare", they have multiple orgs that provide lawyers pro-bono for just these kinds of cases. The right has no equivalent, so yes it is only Democrat presidents who can do this.

The GOP could have done something, they could have refused to pass the Continuing Resolution for the budget unless these EOs were rescinded, or with the debt limit, but they don't.

10 posted on 10/19/2021 4:01:40 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Gene Eric
And there is no related law.

But there is a law regarding a person's right to opt out of experimental drugs issued under an Emergency Use Authorization.

Here is the relevant section of US Code 21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies:

Note that this section is for New Drugs: Emergency Use Authorization (for the currently available vaccines) and includes informed consent and the option to refuse. I underlined the part about "consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product" because I believe this pertains to the medical "consequences" of not taking the drug, given its inclusion in the US Code section on drugs.

It does NOT give permission to government or businesses to place "consequences" on employees who don't take the drug. Requirements like that would be in the US Code sections on labor law.

The former gives the recipient the choice, the latter is coercive consent under duress.

Nobody can give a legally binding consent under these conditions, and for that reason these mandates to take the EUA vaccines are illegal and must be challenged in court.

-PJ

11 posted on 10/19/2021 4:12:46 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thus the need to pretend otherwise, that ‘Cormirnaty’ was given full authorization — and yet there’s not one dose of ‘Cormirnaty’ in the U.S. available, nor do the other two have even the facade of full approval.

Nonetheless in MSMland they act as if the EUA code were already dispensed with.

I read that people are prepping class action lawsuits — good, because until someone smacks these guys in the nose with this law (360bbb-3), they’ll continue and accelerate.


12 posted on 10/19/2021 4:18:32 AM PDT by No.6
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your view does not seem to correctly describe today’s private sector. The company I had worked for, and it was not alone in this, had no problem going all wokey over BLM and George-the-OD. They were quite ready to participate, as were most major corporations, it seems.

Your employment may be “at will”, but their management is not - at least as far as the corporate directions which used to make sense of your employment.

These corporations are acting in concert with the Democrat Party. They have WikiLeaks-proof communications and direction from those in charge. So, EO or not, they are on board and following orders we do not see.


13 posted on 10/19/2021 4:25:54 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Gene Eric
There Has Been No Mandatory Vaccination Executive Order

Really??


EO 14043:
Requiring Coronavirus Disease 2019 Vaccination for Federal Employees
 
EO 14042:
Ensuring Adequate COVID Safety Protocols for Federal Contractors
 PDF
4 pages
See: EO 13991, January 20, 2021

14 posted on 10/19/2021 4:42:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: No.6
Thus the need to pretend otherwise, that ‘Cormirnaty’ was given full authorization — and yet there’s not one dose of ‘Cormirnaty’ in the U.S. available...

Even the FDA had to clarify this in a reissue of the EUA for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

The FDA is treating Comirnaty and Pfizer-BioNTech as separate and distinct products.

From the FDA's reissue of the EUA for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine dated September 22, 2021:

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

Excerpt:

I. Criteria for Issuance of Authorization

I have concluded that the emergency use of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19 when administered as described in the Scope of Authorization (Section II) meets the criteria for issuance of an authorization under Section 564(c) of the Act, because:

  1. SARS-CoV-2 can cause a serious or life-threatening disease or condition, including severe respiratory illness, to humans infected by this virus;
  2. Based on the totality of scientific evidence available to FDA, it is reasonable to believe that Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine may be effective in preventing COVID-19, and that, when used under the conditions described in this authorization, the known and potential benefits of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine when used to prevent COVID-19 outweigh its known and potential risks; and
  3. There is no adequate, approved, and available alternative12 Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19.13
II. Scope of Authorization

I have concluded, pursuant to Section 564(d)(1) of the Act, that the scope of this authorization is limited as follows:

Footnote 12: Although COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older, there is not sufficient approved vaccine available for distribution to this population in its entirety at the time of reissuance of this EUA. Additionally, there are no products that are approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals age 12 through 15, or to provide: an additional dose to the immunocompromised population, or a booster dose to the authorized population described in this EUA.
This means two things:

  1. Comirnaty is not available in the United States, necessitating the reissue of the EUA for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
  2. There are no non-EUA vaccines available in the United States.
It is clear that the FDA intended for Comirnaty and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines to be treated as separate and distinct vaccines.

The vaccine labeled Pfizer-BioNTech is still covered by the terms and conditions of the EUA. It is NOT an FDA-approved vaccine.

-PJ

15 posted on 10/19/2021 4:44:07 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thank you. Very timely...


16 posted on 10/19/2021 4:51:19 AM PDT by OKSooner (6uild 6ack 6etter)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ll believe the fedgov workers getting fired when I see it.


17 posted on 10/19/2021 4:53:11 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: Elsie

No EO for the population at large, only threats against their livelihood.


18 posted on 10/19/2021 4:55:29 AM PDT by OKSooner (6uild 6ack 6etter)
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To: Political Junkie Too

4 L8TR


19 posted on 10/19/2021 4:55:33 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: Kaslin

As for the “mandatory” b.s.. Biden has absolutely zero authority to mandate anything to anyone, other than federal employees and the postal union told him where to shove his “mandate”. So what did Biden do then? He promptly exempted postal employees.

He’s decimating our military, of course that’s part of the intent. Direct orders from China, who OWN Biden, lock, stock and Hunter.


20 posted on 10/19/2021 5:10:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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