Posted on 10/17/2021 9:09:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
OSHA is reportedly getting ready to issue the vaccine mandate President Biden asked them to create. This action is unprecedented on several levels. Using OSHA’s emergency powers to avoid the administrative law procedures that include a public comment period is dubious at best. To issue an Emergency Temporary Standard, “OSHA must determine that workers are in grave danger due to exposure to toxic substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or to new hazards and that an emergency standard is needed to protect them.”
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Does COVID-19 meet that standard? The current infection fatality rates (IFR) for Americans under 50 make it difficult to assert that there is grave danger for the majority of the working-age population. As of October 9, the current public health situation, according to the NHCS provisional death counts, the CDC data tracker, and the CDC estimate disease burden, looks like this for the majority of the working-age population:
Does an estimated IFR of 0.07% constitute an emergency for OSHA when the widely cited IFR for the flu is 0.1%, according to the WHO and Dr. Anthony Fauci? Americans 18-49 actually make up a more significant percentage of non-COVID deaths than COVID-related deaths.
The pandemic is also 18 months old with no other emergency standard issued by OSHA. In fact, OSHA basically admits the agency was not authorized to issue standards when it first posted guidance for employers in January, making a clear distinction: These were recommendations, not standards employers were required to follow.
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The Biden mandate is illegal because it denies the employee the right to opt out under the Emergency Use Authorization. The consent required in the EUA is consent under duress. The employee is being coerced to take the vaccine or lose their job, their benefits, and the ability to provide for their families. That is consent under duress, which is not consent under the law.
-PJ
An opinion, not a fact as you represent it. It’s no different than people who support vaccination saying that anyone vaccinated will not die from COVID-19. Both are ignorant statements.
The mRNA technology has been in development for at least 10 years. The biochemist Katalin Karikó was an mRNA-vaccine pioneer beginning in In 1989. Hundreds of scientists contributed to the research. As a vaccine it was first applied to the denuge fever. Dengvaxia was approved in the United States as the first vaccine approved for the prevention of dengue disease caused by all dengue virus serotype. All the covid vaccine developers had to do was to plug the Spike Protein blueprint into the Denque virus vaccine.
The mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine? That is the stupidest conclusion I have read. It is parroting the misinformation spewed out by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. They work differently than other types of vaccines, but they still trigger an immune response inside your body. This type of vaccine is new, but research and development on it has been under way for decades. The mRNA technology is a new type of vaccine. “MRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein – or even just a piece of a protein – that triggers an immune response inside our bodies,” says the CDC. The mRNA vaccines, despite their differing mechanisms, all broadly follow the same definition: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body’s immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as : an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products such as a protein or toxin.
Another Liberal IDIOT who does not Sh!t!!!!!
“Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-70 year olds have lost 40% of their immune system capability compared to unvaccinated people. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 2.7% and 8.7%). If this continues then 30-50 year olds will have 100% immune system degradation, zero viral defence by Christmas and all doubly vaccinated people over 30 will have lost their immune systems by March next year.”
A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/10/comparison-reports-proves-vaccinated-developing-ade/
Do you mean cations?
Regards,
Sounds more like the jab than the virus
“I am actually for the true information given to the American people about all aspects of the virus and vaccines.”
Me too, but who’s telling the truth, and how can we be sure?
“The truth should convince Americans that the vaccines are the way to go.”
This was supposed to work for ‘the flu shot’ as well. Nonetheless, many still say, “No, thank you.”
Stats on how many ‘flu shot’ recipients succumb to the flu might be of interest.
“...people against the American people want America to go down from the plague.”
That’s silly; your Fauci-esque hyperbole is showing.
America’s not going to “go down from the plague”; never was in that danger. This is NOTHING like smallpox, or polio, and warrants NOWHERE NEAR the same intensity of a response.
“The only way to defeat these subversives is to mandate the vaccines.”
Perhaps it has escaped your notice, but the push toward mandates has been a PRIMARY generator of “these subversives.” You and everyone else in your Kampfgruppe would have been FAR better off going the laissez-faire route, and being content with whatever individuals might choose. The number of takers would be somewhat fewer, but the opposition wouldn’t have hardened, and the social damage would be zero. It’s THAT that’s going to cook the goose in the longer run. Obviously Ol’ ‘Resident Joe never learned “You get more flies with honey.” Neither have you.
Frankly, I was neither here nor there, and still thinking I might go get this thing done, when Two-scoops Joe announced his mandate. That galvanized me; I became a HARD “NO!” instantly. No choice. No compliance. PERIOD.
LET’S GO BRANDON!
This is not a smallpox-level thing; this WuFlu isn’t claiming 30% of those who catch it across all demographics. There is ZERO national-level basis for mandates, and CERTAINLY not mandates disallowing exceptions.
But, riddle me this: if I start putting grains of sand on my tabletop one at a time, how many grains before I have a “pile”? How many more before I have a “heap”? A “mound”? A “hill”?
When Jacobsen was decided by SCOTUS in 1905 The Court ruling threw the door open for GENERAL vaccination mandates WITHOUT religious exception. But the predicate for the case was mandatory vaccination for smallpox. Not mumps, or measles. The Court — I think rightly — saw a 30% killer and said it was reasonable to derogate the right to freedom of religion to safeguard society from that threat. But, in writing the decision, they failed to focus the ruling narrowly on vaccination against smallpox, so a good verdict became a bad one; a ruling in favor of squelching non-derogable religious freedom to stop a 30% killer became a ruling in favor of squelching non-derogable religious freedom to stop even the most stupidly innocuous of things, like chickenpox. Then, to cover up the overreach by making it seem warranted, chickenpox has been recast as a Really Fearsome Thing™.
The Court failed to acknowledge the difference between a “pile” and a “hill,” thus backhandedly ruling that non-derogable religious freedom can be squelched for anything; I’m surprised the flu shot hasn’t been tossed into the cauldron, yet.
FFWD a century, and NOW we have vaccines with ties to abortion; involving the use of cell lines arising out of abortion, as do all the US-available COVID jabs, and these things are HARD STOPS for persons of religious faiths that esteem the unborn as individual human persons — body, soul, and spirit — right from conception. This wasn’t a factor when Jacobsen was decided; we could yield to that overbroad ruling in 1905, because genuinely insurmountable moral objections didn’t exist.
NOW they exist.
The 1905 metric was that a 30% fatality rate warranted suborning freedom of religion to the national health. What is the metric in 2021, now that there are impassable religious obstacles for the faithful? It’d have to be FAR, FAR MORE than 30%, and COVID just IS NOT that. Not even close.
Perhaps to be somewhat consistent in preventing deaths via interaction, relative to the risk of transmission to the vulnerable who chose to engage in interaction with others, mask wearing and vaccination among the public for a virus with a overall worldwide morality rate of 0.05% should be as voluntary as condom use among males who "interact" sexually with each other. Seeing as after 40 years of trying to curtail the primary means of HIV transmission among males, while only approximately 7% of adult and adolescent males reported having had male-to-male sexual contact at some point in their lives, yet 82% of HIV infections among males in 2018 were attributed to male-to-male sexual contact. (P. 7)
Young gay and bisexual men accounted for 83% (6,385) of all new HIV diagnoses in people aged 13 to 24 in 2019, and 81% of diagnoses overall of HIV infection among Adolescents and Young Adults and 92% of HIV infections among men aged 13 to 24 was attributed to male-to-male sexual contact:
More.
Why is it a goal of some people, apparently including you, to want others to get vaccinated? What business is it of anybody else, whether I, or others, decide to not get vaccinated?
Posts 10 & 37-
Why? Really, the entire topic is worthy of examination and discussion. It is difficult to argue, if a person is not well grounded in all aspects of the topic.
Please keep posting.
ptsal
I looked up the definition of "vaccine". Here's what it says: "a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease"
Since none of the so-called COVID vaccines provide immunity against COVID, it is not stupid to conclude that they are not vaccines.
Same story another source:
https://patriotdailypress.org/2021/10/16/this-loophole-in-the-osha-regulations-could-help-you-get-around-the-vaccine-mandate/
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