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Is China Falling?
Front page Magazine ^ | Oct 14, 2021 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 10/14/2021 7:41:26 PM PDT by george76

Selling off resources, purging top officials, and defaulting on debt.

It seems that the Chinese economy is falling, and there may be no one to bail them out. In a wave of recent reports, we see the contraction of the national economy, especially intense in the north. There have been blackouts and power failures across the area, and while the problems began in factories they have now spread to homes, a trend that is forecast to spread as time passes.

The most alarming case is that of the real estate colossus Evergrande, whose debt is so large that default is a real possibility, and thereafter a rash of defaults across the world. Evergrande is a global threat, menacing a worldwide outburst of indebtedness, with all the dreadful consequences that go along with it.

Evergrande is not the only menace. As The Epoch Times wrote recently, dictator Xi seems to be saying that he doesn't want a society that is individualistic, but rather a mass of citizens who see their role as supporting and following the state. He has purged hundreds of thousands of top officials from Party ranks in the recent past, and promises to do more of the same in the near future. The state has been selling commodities for the first time in a decade, and released oil from its strategic reserves for the first time in ten years. The Chinese are selling off their resources.

On October 4th, Evergrande, unable to meet its obligations, suspended sales of its stock. Over the past 20 years, more than 20 percent of the French Jewish population has left France, with a notable increase of those emigres going to Israel. The French are not happy with public education in their home country, and much prefer Israeli methods.

Evergrande is the biggest company to suspend trading to date, and it will resume activity next week, following a week's suspension of stock market activity. What will happen? Xi seems eager to put an end to unbridled trading, and to bring Chinese manufacturers under ever more rigid state control. When Jack Ma, the founder and CEO of Alibaba made a public speech that was critical of the nation's (that is, of Dictator XI's) crackdown on Chinese business, he disappeared for several days. Ma has since been a low-profile actor, and Xi has focused on relations with Taiwan, warning the island that it was only a matter of time before China undertook military action against it. This goes hand in hand with the mainland's efforts to pressure Taiwan's government into reintegrating with the People's Republic. The United States was meanwhile increasing military sales, and sending top Defense Department officials to Taipei. As an American expert on Taiwan put it, this arrangement favored increased Western influence. "You can't divorce the technology completely from the society that produced it."

Xi was evidently trying to resist. But Taiwan has elected a new, nationalist administration that has vowed to advance the country's ability to defend itself, and the growing friendship with America indicates that Biden is willing to play ball in that game.

Stay tuned.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asia; baluchistan; china; chinese; economy; evergrande; exports; obor; onebeltoneroad; pakistan; taiwan
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To: Does so

Dollar Store?

EVERY SINGLE STORE IN AMERICA.

Everywhere. Walmart. Every auto parts store. Every tool store. Every store.

EVERYTHING is made in China.


41 posted on 10/15/2021 12:21:42 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam)
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To: george76

“Is China Falling?’’

I hope so.


42 posted on 10/15/2021 1:06:10 AM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: george76

No . The USSA is .


43 posted on 10/15/2021 1:10:18 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: cornfedcowboy
We have kicked this can down the road (U.S debt) about 30 years longer than I would have thought possible.

I had a conversation the other day with someone who told me seriously that we should just 'print more money'. I explained why that wasn't a good idea, and how it would devalue our currency and the value of people's savings. This was a consequence they hadn't thought about.

Our government gets away with a lot of what it does because of the lack of economic literacy of the public.

44 posted on 10/15/2021 2:12:14 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: george76

Author provides thin gruel for his thesis.


45 posted on 10/15/2021 4:12:25 AM PDT by montag813
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To: george76

China has multiple problems at the same time:

Lack of foreign investment into China

Collapse of Evergrande could just be the first of many, shaking confidence

Lack of electricity - blackouts for months, coal shortages and manufacturing at a standstill due to no electricity

Supply Chain collapse - chip shortage is hitting everyone, including Chinese companies

Lack of containers - Containers are sitting on boats and not returning to China with raw materials so they can be filled and sent back around the world. Exports are dead

A military that is growing restless and itching for a fight over Taiwan. A Taiwan takeover would hit the global economy massively

Increasing oil/gas prices impacting everyone

A US economy that is shaking, not growing.

A US leadership that is directionless and incompetent

The world is on the brink of a collapse like we have not seen since the Great Depression.


46 posted on 10/15/2021 4:18:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: montag813

Not surprising, he’s been predicting the fall of the ayatollahs for years.


47 posted on 10/15/2021 4:21:07 AM PDT by untenured
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To: Jonty30
We talking about China; or US?
48 posted on 10/15/2021 4:31:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: catnipman
“When China sneezes, the U.S. catches a cold ...” COVID!
49 posted on 10/15/2021 4:33:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: george76

...dictator Xi seems to be saying that he doesn’t want a society that is individualistic, but rather a mass of citizens who see their role as supporting and following the state.

Swap out ‘Biden’ for ‘Xi’ and the sentence still holds true.


50 posted on 10/15/2021 4:34:50 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The future is a quiet world)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Is Evergrande the pebble rolling down a mountain that triggers the landslide.


51 posted on 10/15/2021 4:40:05 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The future is a quiet world)
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To: cba123

Everything; Sailor??

52 posted on 10/15/2021 4:44:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Islasorna
A desperate human is a dangerous animal.

1.4 billion desperate humans? Well, you get the picture.

When totalitarian governments run out of stuff, they take it from someone else.

53 posted on 10/15/2021 5:07:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Frank Drebin
The leaders of the CCP will take their money and run.

They already are. This is why our stock market is still bullish. That money is going to the only place they think is really safe. Just like dictators for the last 100 years, if their country falls they run with the money to the USA.
54 posted on 10/15/2021 5:13:37 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Jonty30

few hard months?

Have you ever worked in manufacturing.

First you have to find the equipment or have it made. That is a few years.

then you have to put it together and train operators, fixers, and pull together a supply chain for raw products. two to five years.

then you have to find places to sell what you make.

The elite gave this all away


55 posted on 10/15/2021 5:33:16 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: RoosterRedux

A desperate human is a dangerous animal.
1.4 billion desperate humans? Well, you get the picture.

When totalitarian governments run out of stuff, they take it from someone else.

________________

odd that so many people don’t see this.

I figure nuclear attack in the middle of winter to do the most damage to the population.


56 posted on 10/15/2021 5:35:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: george76

Ma has since been a low-profile actor


‘Seen’ only through third party reports. No images, no recorded public appearances


57 posted on 10/15/2021 5:59:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FreedomPoster

Vindman is a Lt. Col. The military rot goes way below general officers.


58 posted on 10/15/2021 6:06:09 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Chickensoup
Yep.

China has a limited window of opportunity while the weak Biden administration and military are running the show.

There's no way of knowing what they might do, but whatever is coming will come soon.

As an aside, Russia seems to know this and is taking advantage accordingly.

59 posted on 10/15/2021 6:12:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: george76

A cornered bear is the most dangerous kind of bear, whether panda, grizzly, or other sort.


60 posted on 10/15/2021 6:13:58 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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