Skip to comments.Harvard Research Confirms What We've Been Saying for MonthsThere is not evidentiary correlation between cases and vaccination rates
Posted on 10/13/2021 8:45:26 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
I have no idea how this paper made it past the censors but there it is! This was published a month ago but didn’t receive much fanfare and now we know why—it confirms what we’ve been saying for months now: the vaccines have not stopped and likely will not stop the pandemic.
Back in July we tweeted that the CDC data mapping vax rates to COVID-19 case rates shows ZERO impact of the former on the latter:
Looks at this! I put together cases and vaccination data from the CDC. (Cases are per 100K left Y-axis | vaccinations are increasing % right Y-axis)
Cases drop by 75% or more for every age group BEFORE any group hits 20% vaccination. Something else is going on entirely here.
We’ve written in these pages multiple times about the same phenomenon. Yesterday, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford tweeted:
“There is a lot to learn from this graph, but most obviously, the COVID vax does not stop infection. The vax provides a private benefit (protection vs. severe disease), but limited public benefit (protection vs. disease spread). So what is the argument for mandates?”
Now this Harvard research notes:
At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.
When they got down to the U.S. county level the relation was even less discernible:
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants
(Excerpt) Read more at covidreason.substack.com ...
“The vaccine provides a private protection — vaccine vs severe disease”
The money quote of the article. To be clear, you have posted an article that definitely states that the vaccine prevents serious illness. So remind me again, why you think the vaccine is bad? This is your data — your article — not mine.
23. Covid “vaccines” are totally unprecedented. Before 2020 no successful vaccine against a human coronavirus had ever been developed. Since then we have allegedly made 20 of them in 18 months.
Scientists have been trying to develop a SARS and MERS vaccine for years with little success. Some of the failed SARS vaccines actually caused hypersensitivity to the SARS virus. Meaning that vaccinated mice could potentially get the disease more severely than unvaccinated mice. Another attempt caused liver damage in ferrets.
While traditional vaccines work by exposing the body to a weakened strain of the microorganism responsible for causing the disease, these new Covid vaccines are mRNA vaccines.
mRNA (messenger ribonucleic acid) vaccines theoretically work by injecting viral mRNA into the body, where it replicates inside your cells and encourages your body to recognise, and make antigens for, the “spike proteins” of the virus. They have been the subject of research since the 1990s, but before 2020 no mRNA vaccine was ever approved for use.
24. Vaccines do not confer immunity or prevent transmission. It is readily admitted that Covid “vaccines” do not confer immunity from infection and do not prevent you from passing the disease onto others. Indeed, an article in the British Medical Journal highlighted that the vaccine studies were not designed to even try and assess if the “vaccines” limited transmission.
The vaccine manufacturers themselves, upon releasing the untested mRNA gene therapies, were quite clear their product’s “efficacy” was based on “reducing the severity of symptoms”.
25. The vaccines were rushed and have unknown longterm effects. Vaccine development is a slow, laborious process. Usually, from development through testing and finally being approved for public use takes many years. The various vaccines for Covid were all developed and approved in less than a year. Obviously there can be no long-term safety data on chemicals which are less than a year old.
Pfizer even admit this is true in the leaked supply contract between the pharmaceutical giant, and the government of Albania:
the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known
Further, none of the vaccines have been subject to proper trials. Many of them skipped early-stage trials entirely, and the late-stage human trials have either not been peer-reviewed, have not released their data, will not finish until 2023 or were abandoned after “severe adverse effects”.
26. Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal indemnity should they cause harm. The USA’s Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP) grants immunity until at least 2024.
The EU’s product licensing law does the same, and there are reports of confidential liability clauses in the contracts the EU signed with vaccine manufacturers.
The UK went even further, granting permanent legal indemnity to the government, and any employees thereof, for any harm done when a patient is being treated for Covid19 or “suspected Covid19”.
Again, the leaked Albanian contract suggests that Pfizer, at least, made this indemnity a standard demand of supplying Covid vaccines:
Purchaser hereby agrees to indemnify, defend and hold harmless Pfizer […] from and against any and all suits, claims, actions, demands, losses, damages, liabilities, settlements, penalties, fines, costs and expenses
Cases mean nothing, one must look at deaths.
You also have to break it down by age or demographics.
The earliest vaccinated were the most susceptible so it is conceivable the 20% may reflect a much lager percent of the risk group that accounts for almost all the actual cases or deaths.
It’s a good observation you’ve made, but you need to do further analysis.
It may also reflect ups and downs of cold and flu type diseases and the vaccine roll out was at a down turn.
It may be the vaccine is not very effective at all.
We certainly know it’s not as effective as traditional vaccines.
Or perhaps the disease was invented for the purpose of the vaccine....but I digress.
So how is Singapore doing with Covid cases and deaths these days? What about Israel, Ireland and Malta?
Why are we having 5 to 10 times as many cases and deaths this fall with the vaccine compared to last year at the same t ime WITHOUT the vaccine?
Definitely supports your assertion — not!
A hypothesis - countries with higher vaccination rates also tend to have higher covid test administration rates. Both depend in large part on being more “advanced”, richer, greater degree of organization and resources to throw at the problem. The richer you are the more you can test, the more covid you find, as well as being more able to do mass rollouts of vaccination. So these contradicting factors throw off this relation.
All this data of any sort suffers from both un-normalized variables as well as a lack of understanding, still, on how environmental factors affect covid. We dont know which variables matter, and how.
No doubt the vaccine reduces symptoms, but at what cost? What is the trade off?
In children, that would be reducing already very minor symptoms, if any, at the cost of completely unknown long term side effects?
I guess we can assume the long term side effects are the same as other mRNA drugs on the market. Oh, wait...
For an elderly person, with comorbidities the decision is very different than a child with very little risk who hopefully has decades left on the planet.
Fractal Trader, I have commented on some of your previous posts, noting the lack of confirmation for the articles’ claims. This is nothing against you personally. It is, I think, a necessary skepticism.
But I’ve got to tell you something. This post is absolutely the real deal. I followed the link in the article to a very interesting paper, one that needs to be discussed on the national level. From that paper:
“At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days...”
The sellers of vaccines claimed that the vaccines reduce severe wuhan coronavirus cases. They seem to stop doing so after 4 months.
A private benefit at the cost what?
And why is your business why or why not others decide to take the private benefit?
I’ve had Covid. Confirmed case by test and classic symptoms. Antibodies.
My boss got a serious heart issue from the vaccine and will never fly again. He had Covid the same week I did. He discouraged all his employees.
I will lose my job 11/22 for a vaccine that offfers no public benefit and no private befit since I had Covid.
Again, what business it of yours that I will decline an uneccessary medical procedure ?
Complete and total red herring. I hs e never supported mandated vaccination. I will call our inaccurate information. This is not an accurate representation of what is occurring in ICUs nation wide.
Uh....how about the Vaxed is 5x more likely to die:
> The sellers of vaccines claimed that the vaccines reduce severe wuhan coronavirus cases. <
The paper I referenced in my post #9 does not seem to address that. Plus different countries might report Covid cases differently. But that paper reported rather shocking findings nevertheless. As I noted earlier, its findings really should set off a national discussion.
Since the vaccine sellers talked about severe cases, it’s not a surprise to me that the vaccines don’t reduce cases.
Lots of doubt it reduces symptons. Do you think they go around and get the level of symptoms from people outside of hosptitals? They don’t, so they have no way of knowing. Further, the number of vaxed people is higher as well as the death rate:
I CHOSE to get vaccinated....my CHOICE.
If the vaccination is even half of what it is claimed to be I really don’t give a rat’s rump whether anyone else is vaccinated or unvaccinated, masked or unmasked, coughing or calm, close or distant!
I am pro VOLUNTARY vax.
I am barely tolerant VOLUNTARY mask.
I am anti MANDATORY vax.
I am vehemently anti MANDATORY mask.
I have ZERO need to “feel safe” on the basis that everyone in a venue, a health care facility, or any other place has dutifully shown their papers.
America will remain “the land of the free” ONLY if we demonstrate that we are “the home of the brave”!
I think that is the position of most of us here that support the vaccination for those who wish it despite how the antivax crowd would like to portray us
You’re right I should have been more specific: ...reduces symptoms on the original variant as tested in 2020 by the pharma companies. IOW I believe the research that started this.
However, outside of that incredibly short clinical trial window last year, these vaccines appear to lose effectiveness over time and against variants.
IMHO, the jab should not be called a vaccine since it does nothing even resembling immunity. Possibly a “prophylactic treatment” for covid symptoms.
Also, since they don’t stop transmission, mass jabs during the pandemic could be favoring variants — ie causing delta to dominate. Hopefully new dominant variants aren’t more deadly. See Marek’s Disease in chickens.
“support the vaccination for those who wish it“
I will assume that this statement means you are anti mandate. That forcing any American to take a experimental injection, by force or coercion is wrong and wholly un-American.
Very soon many of us will be loosing our jobs due to these mandates, as a matter of fact, some Americans already have lost their livelihood due to refusal to submit to these mandates.
My question is to all those who are pro covid vaccine but anti mandate. When we lose our jobs for not complying, will you walk off the job with us? Will you stand with us, unto the breach, to stop tyranny in our great nation?
This is a serious question, will you stand, as we will, in defense of freedom?
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