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Biden Administration Submits Private Employer COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Review
The Epoch Times ^ | 10-12-21 | Zachary Steiber

Posted on 10/12/2021 8:27:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie

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To: a real Sheila

Proof the vaccine does not work. One of my remote co-workers fully vaccinated GOT COVID, Delta.

This mandate will not stand.

It is illegal.

F Joe Biden.


101 posted on 10/13/2021 5:11:36 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Sounds like a conspiracy theory? Wait 6 months and it will be truth.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Meanwhile, from NYC...

NYC’s Unvaccinated Teachers Must Waive Right To Sue If They Want To Keep Health Benefits

Right to sue over vaccine mandate.

102 posted on 10/13/2021 5:18:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: SaveFerris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCdtE6VzR5o

Halleluiah!!!

What a GREAT way to start my day!

THANK YOU!!


103 posted on 10/13/2021 5:23:34 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: MNJohnnie

It’s not a rule when first published. It is a proposed rule, open for public comments.

Federal rulemaking is “administrative law,” promulgated by a set of huge unaccountable bureacracies.

https://www.federalregister.gov/uploads/2011/01/the_rulemaking_process.pdf


104 posted on 10/13/2021 5:23:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MNJohnnie

Mao starved out a good proportion of his country. We are well on our way.


105 posted on 10/13/2021 5:27:01 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: LilFarmer; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi; greeneyes; ...

He’s lying through his teeth. He has forbidden me from posting to him, but here’s a link or two:

Harvard study showing no correlation between jab rates and infection rates across 67 Countries, and across over 2900 US counties
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

New England Journal of Medicine Article showing antibodies from jabs drop off around 3 months
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114583

Slide show from Johns Hopkins Data, of death rates from many countries worldwide, showing death rates skyrocketing AFTER the jab:
https://imgur.com/8hMkTNC.jpg

Ticker Guy analysis of the Uk Report:

NEGATIVE EFFICIENCY CHART

Unfortunately what this means is that now for anyone over 30 you are more likely to get infected, yes, adjusted for the population that is vaccinated, if you are vaccinated. Indeed in the 40-49 age group you’re close to double as probable on a per-population basis.

This means that if your employer mandates the jabs he or she can be sued for putting those who can’t get vaccinated at double the risk, on purpose, by enforcing the mandate.

Since there are people who can’t (due to immune compromise, such as cancer patients) be vaccinated this is now intentional risk.

In other words this is hard, scientific evidence that these mandates by employers have increased the risk of customers (and other employees) contracting Covid-19. This isn’t a natural risk (which an employer is not responsible for) it’s a man-made one created by the employer.

That’s actionable.

So far this is not translating into higher risk of Covid hospitalization and death on a per-100,000 basis. But that the vaccine makes you more likely to both get and give to others the virus is now established. It is fact. It is in fact true for everyone who is over 30.

I have pointed out that preventing infection was never in the cards; it was not part of the EUA, it was not part of the studies, it was never demonstrated. But this is much worse because now we are talking about a direct threat to others.

The CDC, NIH and Biden almost-certainly know this.

This is why the mad rush to demand you get jabbed; they know damn well what this means and that while the manufacturer is immune the employers are not and in fact any such mandate leaves them wide open legally as soon as an unvaccinated person gets infected after being at said firm either as an employee or customer and sues the company on the basis of intentionally and maliciously increasing their risk by forcing their employees to get the jab, which is exactly what they did.

The data from England is conclusive in that regard.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243859
...SNIP...

The report he is reviewing is linked below:

UK Health Security Agency

COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report
Week 40

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf


106 posted on 10/13/2021 5:59:26 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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To: firebrand; LilFarmer; grey_whiskers

They are less contagious because it’s the symptoms themselves that cause the contagion. I will look up the source, which I have, but it is obvious to me and makes sense.


Oh, that settles it, then.....since “it’s obvious to YOU, and makes sense”.

The “vax”d, with their HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS breakthroughs, are the ones infecting. And, guess what else? They’re getting sick and going to hospitals.

And, these FR VPs mock real docs, and scientists, just because their only UNcensored platforms are bitchute, rumble and their own websites and/or blogs.

Not to mention ALL of the EXCELLENT links provided by grey whiskers the forbidden poster.

🙄


107 posted on 10/13/2021 6:32:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: 444Flyer

108 posted on 10/13/2021 6:43:29 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: momincombatboots

We call them the Pilgrims now but they called themselves Separatists. That was the original Mayflower passengers. The Puritans came later and they were no fun at all. Think Salem witch trials. The Separatists were much cooler and even got along with the native Americans for years.

Your local elected sheriff is going to be your biggest ally in the coming times.

County before country.


109 posted on 10/13/2021 6:49:21 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: LilFarmer

his/her stock portfolio?


110 posted on 10/13/2021 6:50:41 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: mdmathis6

That why the testing part is in there. They trying to make the people accept it. Then the tesking loop hole can be removed

Also, it this Constitution end run is allowed, it establishes precedence that can be used to mandate other Leftist agenda items by Executive Order


111 posted on 10/13/2021 6:51:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: HypatiaTaught

Unvaccinated folks are no more threat to a vaccinated worker, than a vaccinated is to an unvaccinated.

Someone elses vaccination status has ZERO impact on whether or not you will be exposed or get sick or even die.

Vaccinated folks are no less contagious when they get sick than unvaccinated, and no, break through cases are not rare.

Only thing vaccine does is lower the risk of death by about 50-60% for the vaccinated, it doesn’t prevent them from getting it or passing it along.

Entire premise of this is based on a LIE.


112 posted on 10/13/2021 6:53:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: BiglyCommentary

No that is the hook. Make people fall for it with this loop hole. Once the mandate is in place they can close that loophole at any time.

Also, once the mandate is allowed, it establishes a legal precedence that can be exploited to enact other Leftist agenda items by Executive Order


113 posted on 10/13/2021 6:54:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Pollard

Lol, I’m still waiting for an answer from him *crickets*


114 posted on 10/13/2021 6:54:35 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Jane Long

Because “science”.


115 posted on 10/13/2021 6:56:08 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: firebrand
Nope

Don't get to claim you “protecting workers safety” and then exempt large swatch of the population from protection

Drawing a line at 99 workers is proof the whole rational for their “emergency safety standard” is a lie.

Worship the vac all you want, but stop trying to manufacture a illogical rational for the Vac Mandate. It just makes you look silly.

116 posted on 10/13/2021 6:58:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: firebrand

The Biden Regime uses the word Mandate

So rather then continue to cling to your rationalization start actually THINK about the precedence here


117 posted on 10/13/2021 6:59:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: firebrand

Shorter period during the particular height of illness they reach, but I had thought that studies had been done that indicated the “viral load” (walking around potency) of the vaccinated and the unvaccinated was the same?


118 posted on 10/13/2021 6:59:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Anyone will 99 employees or less is exempt from their “emergency Safety Standard” supposedly


119 posted on 10/13/2021 7:00:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: grey_whiskers

Follow up.

Sleeping on it, it occurred to me that almost half of the deaths, occurred before there was a jab.

Which means, to account for the risks in a world of vaccinations accurately, we need to account for, the difference between the jabbed and the unjabbed.

...and, there might be some argument, that if the mandate is on the unjabbed, we ought to subtract out the deaths of the jabbed, too. Since by definition, the number of people who died from COVID after the jab, can’t be counted towards the risk of dying while unjabbed.

This would lower the odds somewhat.


120 posted on 10/13/2021 7:02:45 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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