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Premature Premonitions of Civil War?
American Thinker.com ^ | October 9, 2021 | William Sullivan

Posted on 10/09/2021 2:13:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

Anyone paying attention knows that America is fast polarizing to become two distinct factions. One is comprised of the coastal blue states commanded by dictators, for whom concepts like individual liberty are just speed bumps on the way to their newfangled visions of progress, and the other is largely made up of the red states in America’s heartland and Southeast, where leaders still generally fear the electoral consequences of putting their boots on their constituents’ throats.

The latter faction’s ultimate victory in the war of ideas is the only chance we have of maintaining anything that resembles the American ideal, but that chance seems to be vanishing quickly as the blue states are consolidating their current ascendency to bring blue state authoritarianism to the red states via international corporate power, social conformity campaigns, and federal tyranny in Washington, including executive edicts, unconstitutional legislation, and threats to subvert the judiciary.

It’s no wonder, you might say, that roughly two-out-of-three Republicans are open to the idea of secession, according to some polls. So, are we heading toward civil war, as many have openly asserted in recent years? And if so, what can we learn from the last one to inform us about the nature of today’s crisis? Looked at closely, there are important differences.

The media would have us believe that the blue states are the modern analogs of the free states in 1860, and the red states are the modern analogs of the secessionist slave states. And yet, this dynamic has existed almost entirely in the inverse for some time.

Let’s first consider the political dynamics in 1860. America was similarly divided into two general factions, then defined as “free” and “slave” states. Then, there was no mass exodus occurring from the free states to the slave states.

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1 posted on 10/09/2021 2:13:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

America’s heartland and Southeast, where leaders still generally fear the electoral consequences of putting their boots on their constituents’ throats.


Is that sentence meant to be a joke?


2 posted on 10/09/2021 2:14:33 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

I know the trend to leave blue states for red states exists. I only hope it is the right leaning people who are leaving.


3 posted on 10/09/2021 2:40:41 AM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

This should not be looked at as red and blue states. But metro blue liberals vs rural red.

Possibly divide the blue states by county and shut off all services, and shipments including food and see how long they last.


4 posted on 10/09/2021 3:37:18 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: qaz123

I dislike that term “leaders”. No one “leads” me.


5 posted on 10/09/2021 3:42:18 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Bearshouse

We shall see. Musk announced yesterday he’s moving corporate headquarters to Austin. Soon, he will have corp hq, space X, truck mfg, battery factory, in Austin area which is already a blue enclave due to UT presence. Will Texas eventually become purple? Probably.


6 posted on 10/09/2021 3:44:32 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: snoringbear

Yes texas will become purple but California will rejoin Mexico which has been the point of the leftist policies since the beginning.


7 posted on 10/09/2021 4:15:58 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Bearshouse

A lot of it is because they want jobs. The blue states are the ones that don’t have as many jobs as we did 30 years ago. It’s why I came to South Carolina. And right now I consider myself a refugee from the Northeast and really wish that I was born and raised here in the south.


8 posted on 10/09/2021 4:28:51 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Kaslin

Minor nit: in 1860 there was no exodus south but there was one west. We had a vast area for disaffected folks to move towards.
Not so anymore.
People move where they think their labors are appreciated and to be left alone.

I disagree that if there is a split it should be on a county wide basis. There should be a 2-5 year period where folks should move to their preferred color. Red states do not need cancers festering in their midst.


9 posted on 10/09/2021 4:36:14 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Chickensoup

California will rejoin Mexico


Theoretically the state could rejoin Russia, as could AK


10 posted on 10/09/2021 4:36:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Adder

The problem is; conservatives want to be left alone and have no problem with leaving liberals alone. “However”, liberals will not leave conservatives alone. They want to control us and force us to submit to their socialist policies.


11 posted on 10/09/2021 4:49:42 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: snoringbear

Oh yes...certainly agree. That is the crux of the problem.


12 posted on 10/09/2021 5:00:06 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Kaslin
I prefer to think of succession in the inverse; Red states kick the Commie blues out of the Republic.
13 posted on 10/09/2021 5:07:13 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Excellent point. I agree 100 plus percent!!


14 posted on 10/09/2021 5:17:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: snoringbear

How can Musk not understand he is moving to a colony of California? Maybe he does and that is the point.

Every major US city is so far gone that we would have a full-blown Soviet style communism if their voters had their way. And probably something much worse. People that evil are a terminal cancer for any nation.


15 posted on 10/09/2021 5:27:39 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: tired&retired

Freeways are the arteries they cannot secure. Without them, leftists live in concrete jungles without food.


16 posted on 10/09/2021 6:34:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Bingo...

It will be like the movie where New York City was turned into a prison.


17 posted on 10/09/2021 7:03:42 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: rxh4n1

Very true.


18 posted on 10/09/2021 7:34:46 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Bearshouse

I certainly wish that were the case. Does not appear to, be the case in places like Boise, Idaho, unfortunately.


19 posted on 10/09/2021 7:35:56 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: PIF

I am not talking about theoretically.

I am talking about the plans of LaRaza and the leftist leadership in the state and country.


20 posted on 10/09/2021 10:51:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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