You Need to Hear a Story About Chickens Before Vaccine Mandates Go Any Further

PJ Media ^ | 10/04/2021 | Stacey Lennox

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While reading a story about a new COVID-19 variant called R-1, blamed for 53 cases in California, I came across a line that needs to be corrected. “The R.1 variant proves that mutations will continue to take place. The most effective way to stop these mutations from happening is to get vaccinated.” You will hear statements like this about vaccines and mutations from the president on down. Everyone needs to be able to combat this idea.

First, viruses mutate when they face evolutionary pressure. Obstacles to the virus entering the cells of a host’s body to make copies of itself, also called replication, create this pressure. The immune systems of many unvaccinated people will provide no obstacles at all. Over the first four to five days of a COVID-19 infection, the person’s viral load will increase, then they become symptomatic and can transmit virus to other potential hosts. There is almost no pressure on the virus to update its bag of tricks, or mutate.

Some people have been exposed to coronaviruses that are similar to SARS-CoV-2. They mount a faster immune response than those who are entirely naive or otherwise immunocompromised due to age or other illnesses. Natural immunity can be so effective that those individuals may never build a viral load sufficient to transmit it, so mutations by the virus do not get passed on. Alternatively, innate immunity works so effectively that the virus doesn’t have time to evolve.

Research has shown that those who have recovered from SARS-CoV-1 and other beta coronaviruses may have this immune response. Likewise, research on natural immunity to SARS-CoV-2 at Emory shows that patients recovered from COVID-19 have reactive immunity to SARS-CoV-1 and other viruses. During the H1N1 pandemic, a similar phenomenon occurred.

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So when are viruses most likely to mutate? When they encounter a similar immune response in many potential hosts. This situation is created by vaccinating large numbers of people to train their immune systems to work the same way. If the vaccine used is “leaky,” the vaccinated can be infected and transmit the virus. The pressure to bypass the vaccine-induced immunity causes mutations that are transmitted to others. This can happen even when the vaccinated person remains without symptoms.

There are indications that the current COVID-19 vaccines fit this description because the vaccinated can be infected and become symptomatic. Some studies demonstrate that the vaccinated can build viral loads at least as large as the unvaccinated, even if their symptoms are not as severe. High viral loads with mild to moderate symptoms create the perfect evolutionary environment for mutation.

Nextstrain has been monitoring mutations globally. The red line in the graph below shows when the United States had vaccinated approximately 100 million Americans using the two mRNA vaccines primarily. It proceeds through the present, when almost 215 million Americans have received vaccines. Vaccination rates in much of Europe rose at rates similar to or faster than the U.S. during that period. Simply ask yourself, if each dot represents a mutation, when did the number for several of the common clades, like Delta, Gamma, and Alpha, explode?

(Credit: Nextstrain)

If you look at the red dots, the yellow dots, and the light and dark orange dots, they don’t change. The map explains this phenomenon. The Mu, Eta, Iota, and Lambda variants evolved in South America and Africa, where vaccination rates are mainly negligible.(Credit: Nextstrain)

Epsilon, Gamma, and Iota appear to burn out in the presence of the highly transmissible Delta variant. If you go to the Nextstrain site, you can hit play and watch the evolution of the virus over time. The pie charts on the map are the total share of each variant for the entire pandemic. When you watch the time lapse, you can see Delta has completely taken over the U.S. as the circle turns completely teal. However, you see Mu and Lambda hold their own, even with Delta in the mix. And these variants are headed to the U.S. over our open southern border.

Marek’s disease in chickens was the first time the phenomenon of a leaky vaccine, and its effect on viral mutation, demonstrated that the vaccinated can be dangerous to the unvaccinated. According to the author summary of the 2015 study:

There is a theoretical expectation that some types of vaccines could prompt the evolution of more virulent (“hotter”) pathogens. This idea follows from the notion that natural selection removes pathogen strains that are so “hot” that they kill their hosts and, therefore, themselves. Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks.

[Jim W N]

Nobody here but us chickens...

[blueunicorn6]

I don’t count it as a good day until I hear a chicken story.

[z3n]

I think some people read articles about mutations and variants and somehow get the impression that viruses have some sort of collective intelligence and adapt when they have to. Of course that’s preposterous. Any time a virus is widespread or endemic, those mutations will flourish that improve it’s ability to survive in the host or more importantly, mutations that allow it to spread more easily.

If you “vaccinate” (it’s not a vaccine) the population, then you are actively creating (or selecting for) strains that differ from how the “vaccine” targets them.

[blueunicorn6]

Goldilocks and the Three Chickens…..

Snow White and the Seven Chickens…..

Beauty and the Chicken…..

I can hear them over and over.

[Buttons12]

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4000459/posts

ICYMI. Perp’s name: Buk Buk.

[Honorary Serb]

WRONG!!!!

Viruses (and other organisms) mutate spontaneously, regardless of “evolutionary pressure”. Various conditions, which may constitute “evolutionary pressure”, can result in selection of mutants or variants which may have advantages in infecting humans.

And PHOOEY to the paywall!!!

[griswold3]

Mark for later

[joshua c]

i put the title in search and it popped up on patriot press. no paywall.

[JayGalt]

Because of selective pressures, organisms with certain phenotypes have an advantage when it comes to survival and reproduction. Over time, this leads to evolution.

[NonValueAdded]

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To get away from the vaccine!

[Jeff Chandler]

Zat you, Buk Buk?

[Jeff Chandler]

You win.

[blueunicorn6]

May the ghost of Colonel Sanders fill your bucket with feathers.

[Steve_Seattle]

Vaccine rates in some South American countries are not "negligible." Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay all had a big vaccination push that seems to have resulted in a steep drop in cases, and I say this as an unvaccinated skeptic. My argument has never been that vaccines are ineffective for most people in the short term, but that there are too many things we don't know about long-term effects, and legitimate scientists and doctors have explained the mechanism for some of these potential problems.

Moreover, there seems to be an unusually high number of severe short-term reactions, even if they are among a relatively small number of the vaccinated.

[Nateman]

Leaky Vaccines have an even worse issue. ADE or Antibody Dependent Enhancement . ADE occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection. Instead, these antibodies act as a “Trojan horse,” allowing the pathogen to get into cells and exacerbate the immune response.

[Nateman]

This is how we defeat the China Virus.

[Persevero]

Not really cause they don’t add any positive genetic information.

Evolution theorizes that organisms grow more complex. This is a lie.
From mud to human, etc.

Adaptation is not evolution.

[JayGalt]

Sorry. Your response is gibberish. What I posted is not opinion. It is the accepted scientific definition. There are variations and those variations that enhance survival will be more successful. Vaccination shapes the success of viral variants.
Your suggestion about the nature of evolution is idiosyncratic. Increasing complexity is not required for evolution. Some creatures become more primitive under evolutionary pressure such as blind cave fish.