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Unlearned AIDS Lessons for Covid. In the 1980s, Fauci and Redfield sowed fear about a heterosexual epidemic that never happened.
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 3, 2021 | John Tierney

Posted on 10/04/2021 7:25:17 AM PDT by karpov

‘Follow the science,” we’ve been told throughout the Covid-19 pandemic. But if we had paid attention to history, we would have known that once a disease becomes newsworthy, science gets distorted by researchers, journalists, activists and politicians eager for attention and power—and determined to silence those who challenge their fear-mongering.

When AIDS spread among gay men and intravenous drug users four decades ago, it became conventional wisdom that the plague would soon devastate the rest of the American population. In 1987, Oprah Winfrey opened her show by announcing, “Research studies now project that 1 in 5—listen to me, hard to believe—1 in 5 heterosexuals could be dead of AIDS in the next three years.” The prediction was outlandishly wrong, but she wasn’t wrong in attributing the scare to scientists.

One early alarmist was Anthony Fauci, who made national news in 1983 with an editorial in the Journal of the American Medical Association warning that AIDS could infect even children because of “the possibility that routine close contact, as within a family household, can spread the disease.” After criticism that he had inspired a wave of hysterical homophobia, Dr. Fauci (who in 1984 began his current job, as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases), promptly pivoted 180 degrees, declaring less than two months after his piece appeared that it was “absolutely preposterous” to suggest AIDS could be spread by normal social contact. But other supposed experts went on warning erroneously that AIDS could spread widely via toilet seats, mosquito bites and kissing.

Robert Redfield, an Army physician who would later direct the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during the Covid pandemic, claimed in 1985 that his research on soldiers showed AIDS would soon spread as rapidly among heterosexuals as among homosexuals.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; covid; fauci
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1 posted on 10/04/2021 7:25:17 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

I wasn’t around during that, but it seems to me this covid hysteria is to the AIDS fears like an ocean to a hard rain.

We are in grave peril.


2 posted on 10/04/2021 7:32:31 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: karpov

I remember this ...we were told that everyone would get AIDS ...

We knew it was to ecuse the homosexuals and their ‘activity’

Though the bathhouses were closed the homosexuals were never told to stop whatever it is they do ...

So that was Fauci saying that ...


3 posted on 10/04/2021 7:35:39 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: karpov

I remember when that happened.


4 posted on 10/04/2021 7:36:10 AM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: karpov

Lots of heterosexuals have AIDS. I don’t know if I would call it an epidemic, however. In any case, Fauci needs to be dislodged and neutralized before he does any more damage. (I know: Duh!)


5 posted on 10/04/2021 7:37:51 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (#CowboysAndMoslems2021)
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To: karpov

And because of this the HIPPA rules for PHI were made. Except for HIV patients it meant we could not ask anything about their health or health issues.

But with COVID, the world is the limit. You can ask anything you want about COVID and you had better answer, because negatively answering means “NO” and your employer can fire you.

Still can’t ask anyone about their HIV status, though.


6 posted on 10/04/2021 7:38:21 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: karpov

Read The Myth of Heterosexual Aids!
Must reading!


7 posted on 10/04/2021 7:39:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Dethrone the ruling elite. Redistribute their wealth. Take away their power. Annul their privileges.)
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To: Buttons12

I was there, in SF, during the early 1980’s for the AIDS hysteria. My wife was an Army nurse at the Presidio. The “gays” were burning the city down because they made AIDS political and not a health issue.

Reagan at first wanted the CDC to do the normal precautions of quarantine and investigation, but the political pushback from the militant homosexuals (and they were ALL militant” scared him and he backed down.

I personally believe he was shocked that the gays fought him because he had been friends with many during his Hollywood time. But demons only have friends of convenience, and it was no longer convenient to be Reagan’s friend.


8 posted on 10/04/2021 7:42:05 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: karpov

My doctor, who worked with Fauci during his AIDS days, warned me against believing anything he said. Because of his politicing, AIDS research received much more funding than cancer research. Which disease do you think affects more people?


9 posted on 10/04/2021 7:42:18 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: Tennessee Nana

AS I recall, AIDS was originally known by the initials “GRID”, in which the G stood for Gay. It was a disease process which was striking gay men.

But if offended the sensibilities of activists to have the disease processes labeled as something afflicting gay men. So then “GRID” became “AIDS”, and AIDS was said to be something we were all at risk of contracting.


10 posted on 10/04/2021 7:45:09 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Scarlett156
Lots of heterosexuals have AIDS

Mostly women who share needles, and/or whose men share needles and/or take it in the bum from other men.

11 posted on 10/04/2021 7:46:22 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Savage Rider

I remember that unlimited funds for AIDS very little for breast cancer ...


12 posted on 10/04/2021 7:49:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: karpov
Research shows:

Although only approximately 7% of adult and adolescent males reported having had male-to-male sexual contact at some point in their lives [9], 82% of HIV infections among males in 2018 were attributed to male-to-male sexual contact. (P. 7) 

Young gay and bisexual men accounted for 83% (6,385) of all new HIV diagnoses in people aged 13 to 24 in 2019, and 92% of HIV infections among men aged 13 to 24 was attributed to male-to-male sexual contact:

 
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/group/age/youth/cdc-hiv-youth-sex-700x698.png  https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/group/gender/men/2020/cdc-hiv-men-diagnoses-bar-graph-700x318.png
 
In 2019, heterosexual men accounted for 7% of HIV diagnoses, and heterosexual women accounted for 16% of HIV diagnoses.

The largest percentage of HIV infections was attributed to male-to-male sexual contact (66% overall and 81% among males).
 
Also according to the CDC (chart), in 2017  male to male sexual contact was the mode of transmission in 92% of new HIV cases among male youth aged 13 to 24, and  MSM  accounted for 81% of diagnoses among males  and 70%  of all new HIV diagnoses, and 2 out of every 3 diagnoses in the United States.  Which is despite only representing approximately 4% of the male population). 

And which practice (historically)  has resulted in a greatly increased incidence of other infectious diseases   and premature death.  (Even when their disease is well controlled, people with HIV can develop aging-related conditions such as cardiovascular disease, certain cancers, kidney and liver disease, osteoporosis, and cognitive impairment decades ahead of their HIV-negative counterparts, and their life expectancy is significantly reduced.) And which practice is primarily responsible for more than 700,000 people with AIDS having died (as of 2017 since 1981) in the USA since the beginning of the epidemic  - despite decades of attempting to tame it into being "safe."  (Worldwide, 77.3 million people have contracted HIV and 35.4 million have died of AIDS-related illnesses since the beginning of the pandemic in 1981 (https://health.usnews.com/conditions/hiv-aids/articles/hiv-statistics) 

God made man and women distinctively different yet
uniquely compatible and complementary, and only joined them together in  marriage - as the Lord Jesus Himself specified (Mt. 19:4-6; cf. Gn. 2:24) - and only condemned homosexual relations wherever they are manifestly dealt with.


Yet there is still room at the cross for all who will come to God in repentance and faith, and trust in the Divine Son of God  sent by the Father, the risen Lord Jesus, to save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood, and thus be baptized and live for Him. Acts 10:36-47

13 posted on 10/04/2021 7:56:31 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In the 1980s there was a large population of homosexual men in most urban areas who frequented gay bathhouses and clubs where they had sex with literally hundreds of strangers per year (by their own reports). If you infect one person in that population with an incurable venereal disease of course it is going to spread rapidly throughout that population.

There are very few heterosexuals or women that come close to having the same number of sex partners. Most heterosexuals and women that contracted AIDS were either IV drug users, prostitutes, or contracted AIDS from blood transfusions back before they were able to screen blood.


14 posted on 10/04/2021 7:58:41 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Dementia Joe is Not My President!)
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To: Scarlett156
"Results: Over the 6 years there were 33,681 HIV tests performed on men, of which 17,958 tests were for heterosexual men. From these heterosexual men, nine tested positive for the first time at MSHC (0.05%, 95% confidence interval (CI): 0.01%, 0.09%). These nine cases included six men who had had sex with a female partner from the following countries: Thailand, Cambodia, China, East Timor, Botswana and South Africa. Two men had injected drugs and one had a HIV-positive female partner. Of the 17,958 test results for heterosexual males, 14,902 (83% 95% CI: 84%, 86%) test results were for men who did not have a history of intravenous drug use or had sexual contact overseas. Of these 14,902 low-risk men, none tested positive (0%, 95% CI: 0, 0.00025)."

NONE. Have a nice day.

15 posted on 10/04/2021 7:59:35 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: karpov

Dr Faulty and the rest went to bat to protect the proclivities of the poofters, to avoid signaling them out by quarantining those who were sick, among other responses that might have made a difference.

The ghouls, who didn’t stop addicts or faggots from giving blood, trotted out that boy who got AIDS from a transfusion to show they were right and the disease would break out to the general population and day.

But it didn’t no matter how much their actions said they were being evil, the media lapped it up and the politicians rewarded them.


16 posted on 10/04/2021 8:03:07 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: karpov

The Plendemic is Fauxi’s revenge on the Reagan Revolution and the 100 million Americans who still subscribe to Ronaldus Magnus vision for the United States. Period. Paragraph.


17 posted on 10/04/2021 8:03:13 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
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To: karpov

Here is a reprint of the article without a paywall:

https://www.toptechnicalsolutions.com/unlearned-aids-lessons-for-covid/


18 posted on 10/04/2021 8:05:31 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Dementia Joe is Not My President!)
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To: karpov

The medical community involved in the AIDS scam, and yes it is a scam, murdered people with AZT. The accepted and most prescribed treatment was high dose AZT, which killed 100% of people who took and continued taking that poison.... I mean treatment. Fauci and his cohorts were behind this. Any other treatment was not allowed within the medical community. THE “standard of care” was murder.

Same people in charge, same result. People are dying from the treatment. The majority of those dying and or spreading Covid are the vaxxed. Maybe not “fully vaxxed”, since it is not possible. Fully vaxxed means 3 doses now, and more in the future. All this while infections rage in a manner that is more prevalent than BEFORE the vaxx.

WAKE UP, those who are charged with protecting and healing us are “off their meds”. They must be removed, and scientists without an “investment in disaster” need to look at this “Plandemic” from an unbiased point of view.

Keeping in mind there is natural immunity, that children are not at risk from this virus. That children are our way out of this, as they go through infection, beat it and become truly immune. The same goes for healthy adults. Isolate the high risk people, allow everyone else to go on with life as normal.

This is not a novel or a made for Netflix movie. This is reality, and it will end when we end the governments stranglehold on our very lives.


19 posted on 10/04/2021 8:06:38 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A lot of this info is new to me. In the ‘80s, I was certainly aware of AIDS in the news and the brouhaha over it, but I had not heard of GRID, FAUCI’s or Redfield’s involvement in any of it. Certainly seems like history repeating itself.
Thanks to you all for the history lesson.


20 posted on 10/04/2021 8:08:51 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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