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CDC-funded study: In May, U.S. reached level that some experts say is 'herd immunity' against Covid-19
Sharyl Attkisson ^ | SEPTEMBER 12, 2021 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 09/18/2021 6:33:49 AM PDT by george76

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To: wgmalabama
We get lied to over and over. Most don't know it. Parrots.

Your entire post was spot on! It should be required reading.

41 posted on 09/18/2021 9:29:32 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: george76; bitt; metmom; ransomnote; LilFarmer; Cathi

Well, we know CDC fudges their numbers...so, herd immunity was LIKELY reached MONTHS before this....probably before, or by the time these wicked shots were being rolled out :-(


42 posted on 09/18/2021 9:34:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Sorry my first sentence had an editing error, it should have said:

The Forbes article that you quote and linked to was derived from data that added in all the “Covid deaths” before the vaccines were even available.


43 posted on 09/18/2021 9:35:15 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Wpin

“...daily deaths presently are about double a year ago.....”

are these death rates double last year’s?????

https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiNWE4ZWQxYTktNzU4My00ZGJjLTgxOTUtZjZlNGQxZDQ0YzJmIiwidCI6IjljZTcwODY5LTYwZGItNDRmZC1hYmU4LWQyNzY3MDc3ZmM4ZiJ9


44 posted on 09/18/2021 9:37:05 AM PDT by elpadre ( )
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To: ealgeone

Oh, well, a few of us who actually have had a bit of an inside view through a good friend...

“Worst agency in the government.”


45 posted on 09/18/2021 9:37:57 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: george76

“...U.S. citizens returning from abroad are not allowed into the U.S. without proof of immunity or a negative Covid test.”

So, proof of immunity is ok for US citizens returning to the US, but not ok for US citizens living here?


46 posted on 09/18/2021 9:46:04 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000) )
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To: Wpin; george76

Now if the CDC counts as unvaxxed anyone that went in hospital during days 1-14 after the second shot, them that skews the data.


47 posted on 09/18/2021 9:49:39 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000) )
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To: fireman15

Excess Deaths of all causes, mostly, and this has always been so.

The virus mutations don’t care much about what political events are going on in the US. They are equal opportunity killers. Russia has an effective vaccine and it is not putting much of a dent in their death counts. US Afghanistan policy doesn’t seem to be affecting virus deaths in Moscow. And we should not be surprised at this.

The Chinese did not create a virus that would be easy to stop. Certainly not via some sort of natural process. And probably not via vax, either, per the Russians, and the Excess Death explosion currently underway in the US.

The most important news of the week came from the VA study. Two items — first, many hospitals, and ALL VA hospitals, do Covid testing on anyone admitted for any reason. It makes perfect sense because docs and nurses need to know this when they walk up to a patient. Second, there is an explicit number that defines Severe Covid disease. It’s not a general impression of the patient’s condition. It’s a blood oxygen level. Go below that level and that is Severe Covid disease.

So, counting hospitalizations is likely not too meaningful in an absolute sense. But a count of Severe is.


48 posted on 09/18/2021 9:49:44 AM PDT by Owen
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To: george76

Bkmk herd


49 posted on 09/18/2021 9:59:50 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: hopespringseternal

Last statistics out of Israel I saw were from September 2nd of this year. At that time 60% of the population was fully vaccinated and the breakthrough rate was 2.8%.


50 posted on 09/18/2021 10:28:21 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Owen
I am sorry Owen... I suspect that you are trying to share something of substance. I am sincerely trying to determine what that is.

First deaths from all causes could easily have been inflated by the nonsensical lockdowns. People have not been able to get important treatments for conditions such as high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc... People have been unable to go to places like the YMCA and other “health clubs” for exercise. They have been forced to wear masks that have been proven to have very negative effects on people's health. People have been forced to not go to buffets and restaurants where they could eat a wide variety of foods for a reasonable price and instead have been choking down "fast food". Do you know what that does to your health?

I know two people myself who came down with serious cases of pneumonia neither of which tested positive for Covid. One of them died. The thing that they had in common was that they were habitual mask wearers even in their own homes. The one who lived was told not to wear masks any more because they were one of the reasons she came down with pneumonia in the first place and because her lungs were permanently damaged by high concentration O2 and the ventilators.

“It's a blood oxygen level. Go below that level and that is Severe Covid disease.”

Low blood oxygen level does not necessarily have anything to do with Covid. I spent 25 years responding to people with “low blood oxygen levels” on emergency medical calls. I retired long before the current “pandemic”.

51 posted on 09/18/2021 10:40:12 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Wpin

Do you have a source for this lie?

On August 3rd, out of 400 cases, 240 had been vaccinated.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-80-vaccinated-suffers-another-covid-19-surge-11628769603


52 posted on 09/18/2021 10:44:22 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: fireman15

The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.

According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...

Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/report/statistical-analysis-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-and-deaths


53 posted on 09/18/2021 10:44:43 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: fireman15

The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.

According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...

Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/report/statistical-analysis-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-and-deaths


54 posted on 09/18/2021 10:44:46 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: fireman15

The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.

According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...

Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/report/statistical-analysis-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-and-deaths


55 posted on 09/18/2021 10:44:50 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: fireman15

The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.

According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...

Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/report/statistical-analysis-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-and-deaths


56 posted on 09/18/2021 10:44:52 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: elpadre

If you check out Covidusa.net you can see daily deaths are about double now what they were a year ago. Then consider there is only about 20% of the present population that is now vulnerable.


57 posted on 09/18/2021 10:47:30 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: george76

What could be so important that they want everyone to take the vax?


58 posted on 09/18/2021 10:48:07 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God., Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins)
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To: WildHighlander57

It’s accurate to measure that way. Skewing the results inaccurately would be to count infections or hospitalizations as vaccinated before being truly vaccinated. Surely you understand that.


59 posted on 09/18/2021 10:50:07 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin
referring to your Massachusetts malarkey.

You have just outed yourself Joe. You are not only quoting Biden administration lies, you have adopted his speaking style.

Bunch of Malarkey - Imgflip

And by the way did you even bother to read the Heritage Foundation you linked to? The answer is an obvious NO. YOu are pretty far gone. All over the world in areas with high Covid vaccination rates their are more vaccinated people in hospitals than unvaccinated. The vaccines are an abysmal failure.

Nearly 60% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Israel fully vaccinated, data shows

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

“That means 63 percent of those who died from the Delta variant had been vaccinated.”

https://thesimpsonpost.wordpress.com/2021/06/25/research-reveals-vaccinated-people-more-vulnerable-to-delta-variant-than-unvaccinated/

60 posted on 09/18/2021 11:00:13 AM PDT by fireman15
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