Posted on 09/18/2021 6:33:49 AM PDT by george76
Your entire post was spot on! It should be required reading.
Well, we know CDC fudges their numbers...so, herd immunity was LIKELY reached MONTHS before this....probably before, or by the time these wicked shots were being rolled out :-(
Sorry my first sentence had an editing error, it should have said:
The Forbes article that you quote and linked to was derived from data that added in all the “Covid deaths” before the vaccines were even available.
“...daily deaths presently are about double a year ago.....”
are these death rates double last year’s?????
Oh, well, a few of us who actually have had a bit of an inside view through a good friend...
“Worst agency in the government.”
“...U.S. citizens returning from abroad are not allowed into the U.S. without proof of immunity or a negative Covid test.”
So, proof of immunity is ok for US citizens returning to the US, but not ok for US citizens living here?
Now if the CDC counts as unvaxxed anyone that went in hospital during days 1-14 after the second shot, them that skews the data.
Excess Deaths of all causes, mostly, and this has always been so.
The virus mutations don’t care much about what political events are going on in the US. They are equal opportunity killers. Russia has an effective vaccine and it is not putting much of a dent in their death counts. US Afghanistan policy doesn’t seem to be affecting virus deaths in Moscow. And we should not be surprised at this.
The Chinese did not create a virus that would be easy to stop. Certainly not via some sort of natural process. And probably not via vax, either, per the Russians, and the Excess Death explosion currently underway in the US.
The most important news of the week came from the VA study. Two items — first, many hospitals, and ALL VA hospitals, do Covid testing on anyone admitted for any reason. It makes perfect sense because docs and nurses need to know this when they walk up to a patient. Second, there is an explicit number that defines Severe Covid disease. It’s not a general impression of the patient’s condition. It’s a blood oxygen level. Go below that level and that is Severe Covid disease.
So, counting hospitalizations is likely not too meaningful in an absolute sense. But a count of Severe is.
Bkmk herd
Last statistics out of Israel I saw were from September 2nd of this year. At that time 60% of the population was fully vaccinated and the breakthrough rate was 2.8%.
First deaths from all causes could easily have been inflated by the nonsensical lockdowns. People have not been able to get important treatments for conditions such as high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc... People have been unable to go to places like the YMCA and other “health clubs” for exercise. They have been forced to wear masks that have been proven to have very negative effects on people's health. People have been forced to not go to buffets and restaurants where they could eat a wide variety of foods for a reasonable price and instead have been choking down "fast food". Do you know what that does to your health?
I know two people myself who came down with serious cases of pneumonia neither of which tested positive for Covid. One of them died. The thing that they had in common was that they were habitual mask wearers even in their own homes. The one who lived was told not to wear masks any more because they were one of the reasons she came down with pneumonia in the first place and because her lungs were permanently damaged by high concentration O2 and the ventilators.
“It's a blood oxygen level. Go below that level and that is Severe Covid disease.”
Low blood oxygen level does not necessarily have anything to do with Covid. I spent 25 years responding to people with “low blood oxygen levels” on emergency medical calls. I retired long before the current “pandemic”.
Do you have a source for this lie?
On August 3rd, out of 400 cases, 240 had been vaccinated.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-80-vaccinated-suffers-another-covid-19-surge-11628769603
The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.
According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...
Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey
The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.
According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...
Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey
The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.
According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...
Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey
The rates are the same for more recent data. The Massachusetts information...wasn’t a study...is incorrect. Also, like so many of the ignorant here you confuse infection rate as something important. It really has little meaning. Nothing can stop the virus from entering the body. What matters is hospitalization and deaths. Those clearly show the vaccines are working very well and being unvaccinated is tremendously more risky now than a year ago.
According to Covidusa.net there was about half the deaths (daily) that there are now. Figuring (rough estimate) perhaps 20% of the population is unvaccinated and never had Covid one can see that it is now 10 times more risky to not be vaccinated...
Check this out...referring to your Massachusetts malarkey
If you check out Covidusa.net you can see daily deaths are about double now what they were a year ago. Then consider there is only about 20% of the present population that is now vulnerable.
What could be so important that they want everyone to take the vax?
It’s accurate to measure that way. Skewing the results inaccurately would be to count infections or hospitalizations as vaccinated before being truly vaccinated. Surely you understand that.
You have just outed yourself Joe. You are not only quoting Biden administration lies, you have adopted his speaking style.
And by the way did you even bother to read the Heritage Foundation you linked to? The answer is an obvious NO. YOu are pretty far gone. All over the world in areas with high Covid vaccination rates their are more vaccinated people in hospitals than unvaccinated. The vaccines are an abysmal failure.
Nearly 60% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Israel fully vaccinated, data shows
“That means 63 percent of those who died from the Delta variant had been vaccinated.”
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