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Natural Immunity from Covid-19 Vs. Vaccine Immunity
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Posted on 09/17/2021 6:35:45 AM PDT by MNDude

If you contract the Covid-19 virus does your natural immunity serve as a replacement for the vaccine? The answer is no and health officials say relying on natural infection is like playing a game of Russian roulette.

Health care experts explain that immunity from natural infection is lasting longer than they first estimated, but the amount of actual protection can vary, leaving some people vulnerable to reinfection.

“ We do know that if you have had a natural infection and you do not get vaccinated then you are about 2 ½ times more likely to be reinfected with Covid than if you have had a previous infection and are vaccinated,” says Dr. Anna Durbin, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Doctors say depending on one’s natural immunity after an infection is a risky business, especially when the outcomes are so unclear.

“You don’t know upfront if you are going to do well or not. Clearly, if you have escaped the disease, chancing it is a big gamble. If you know that you are going to have a mild infection that’s ok but nobody knows that upfront. There’s no way of predicting that. We don’t have a good test to tell you if your natural immunity has lessened,” says Dr. Carlos Baleeiro, Pulmonologist at CHI Memorial.

“What vaccination does is provide very good immunity without the severe illness that natural infection does,” says Dr. Durbin.

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1 posted on 09/17/2021 6:35:45 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

The establishment REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wants you to take the jab.


2 posted on 09/17/2021 6:36:44 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Seems like complete BS.


3 posted on 09/17/2021 6:39:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: MNDude

So far in my circle of confirmed jabs and vid infections.

Many who has had the jab, but not the infection, have ended up with the vid.
Many who did NOT have the jab OR the infection have had the vid (Recent strain).

Those who HAD the vid last fall, jabbed or not, have not had any reinfection.

This is in a group of several hundred people I work with or manage. Small sample size, in many areas, but a very interesting result.

The caveat is CONFIRMED infections. I know quite a few who say “I was sick at X, so that was covid!” who later had zero antibodies. Also know several who HAVE antibodies without remember any sickness.


4 posted on 09/17/2021 6:41:32 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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“…Health care experts explain that immunity from natural infection is lasting longer than they first estimated, but the amount of actual protection can vary, leaving some people vulnerable to reinfection….”
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Well, “the amount of actual protection” provided by the vaccines can ALSO vary. And some vaccinated people (actually a higher percentage than that of the “naturally immune”) will be vulnerable to infection.

The fact remains that, in general, natural immunity is broader and stronger than the immunity derived from vaccination.


5 posted on 09/17/2021 6:43:27 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: MNDude

Please explain the mechanism which causes a person to lose his “natural immunity” when he gets vaccinated. Thanks in advance.


6 posted on 09/17/2021 6:46:10 AM PDT by nagant
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"Health care experts explain that immunity from natural infection is lasting longer than they first estimated, but the amount of actual protection can vary, leaving some people vulnerable to reinfection."

Whereas vaccination is lasting longer than they first estimated, and ensures one is invulnerable to infection. Not.

7 posted on 09/17/2021 6:50:00 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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I bet the jab contains HIV.


8 posted on 09/17/2021 6:50:39 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: nagant

LOL.... that there’s funny. Don’t care who you ask.


9 posted on 09/17/2021 6:51:24 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: MNDude

This is Propaganda and goes against 100 years of Known Immunology Science as well as Multiple Clinical Controlled Studies out of Israel, She should have her LICENSE REVOKED IMMEDIATELY for Spreading Deliberate False Information about the Fauci Flu.


10 posted on 09/17/2021 6:55:21 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: nagant

Their explanation: It’s too medical and you wouldn’t understand. Trust us. We use science!


11 posted on 09/17/2021 6:55:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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John Hopkins = Complete f—-tards


12 posted on 09/17/2021 7:00:48 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket ( "Pressure Makes Diamonds" ~General Patton)
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We use science!

Because none of the covid jabs are vaccinations.


13 posted on 09/17/2021 7:01:21 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Seems like complete BS.

It is a complete lie and they know it is a lie. Natural immunity from infection is the most robust.

14 posted on 09/17/2021 7:01:47 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, consultant, pilot instructor, pharmacist , retired now)
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If these commies would simply quit trying to push their vaccination on people who choose not to take the jab, and also allow doctors to use alternative effective treatments, this nation would very soon have this PLANDEMIC under control.

But its appearing more and more likely that their agenda is not to bring this virus under control, but rather to bring this nations citizens under control.


15 posted on 09/17/2021 7:04:55 AM PDT by patriot torch (Ashlie Babbitt-say her name)
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To: redgolum

“The caveat is CONFIRMED infections. I know quite a few who say “I was sick at X, so that was covid!” who later had zero antibodies. “


Those of us who were ill early in 2020 all fall into that category, yet can concluded prior illness by the same standards in medical diagnosis.

To state nothing of the lack of later illness, in my case being ONE exception I believe might have been Delta (based solely upon health dept stats...yeah, I know), a cold-like bout which lasted just over a day without any fever, respiratory or sinus symptoms whatsoever.

Such experience guides my medical decisions and reinforces the hypothesis that those with natural immunity are in a superior state to those with an artificial, experimental, too-specific jab which targets the virus genome NOT AT ALL.


16 posted on 09/17/2021 7:05:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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And they really really want you to get tested multiple times.

The question is why. Treatment does not change if you have WuFlu or regular Flu.

So why are they pushing the test so hard?

BTW, lots of fully vaccinated people in ICU. Seems there are NO naturally immune (people who had it and recovered) people there.

You have to wonder why.

Since the vaccine is so wonderful and all.

17 posted on 09/17/2021 7:05:49 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I had my emotional DNA done. Turns out I am a reincarnation of Subadar Prag Tewarri.)
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To: nagant
Please explain the mechanism which causes a person to lose his “natural immunity” when he gets vaccinated. Thanks in advance.

First off, if you get an antibody test they now have 2 categories - the natural one and the vax one.

Some of these things you just have to think about. You get COVID, you have these wonderful natural antibodies, and then you put a foreign agent in your body to create more antibodies. Is this what you really want to do? Send these messed up signals to your body and mess with your natural defenses?
18 posted on 09/17/2021 7:06:02 AM PDT by RushingWater
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To: drSteve78

Nope, they are gene altering “therapy”. They aren’t too sure what the ultimate outcome will be, but they will watch their test subjects carefully. Maybe.


19 posted on 09/17/2021 7:06:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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Well….everyone I know has had Pfizer thru 2. Without incident. I’ve been the only holdout. I haven’t held out for protest reasons. I mean, I’ve been vaxxed for measles, small pox, tetanus, polio. I have never had a flu or a flu shot in my life. I seldom, if ever, get a cold even. I don’t think my temperature has ever been above 97.7. I had a food allergy when I was 24 years old until I was 27. As soon as it was discovered, I eliminated it, and have been fine.

I’m probably getting the jab next week only because of isolation, threats from the government, and fear of some sort of action against me. It keeps me awake at night thinking of my children and grandchildren forced to avoid me.

The alternative is to build a cabin in the woods and wait for the ATF to come calling.

I’ll just get it over with and jab.


20 posted on 09/17/2021 7:07:04 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (I still drive under the influence of Rush Limbaugh.)
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