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IL: Kyle Roider Found Not Guilty by Self Defense After 2.5 Years in Jail
AmmoLand ^ | 30 August, 2021 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/02/2021 10:16:58 AM PDT by marktwain

Madison Lammert of the Republic Times has reported Kyle Roider spent two and a half years in Monroe County jail before a jury found him not guilty of all charges. Lammert has reported extensively on the case.

The jury was out for only three and a half hours before they returned the verdict at about 6 pm on 20 August 2021. Roider had been held without bail since January of 2019. The trial was delayed, in part, due to COVID19 fears.

The case involved drug use, a possible love interest, a failure to notify the police of the shooting, and digital recovery of data from phones.

Roider and the person killed, Steven Becker, were in Kyle’s home at the time, on Church Street in Waterloo, Illinois.

Kyle Roider had numerous misdemeanors before the incident. None of them were violent. He had not lost his right to bear arms. He has had mental issues but was found fit to stand trial. He had medication for schizophrenia.

Steven Becker’s toxicology report showed he had meth, cocaine, and marijuana in his blood when he was killed. From stltoday.com:

Becker was found dead in Roider’s basement with gunshot wounds to his head and his right leg two days after the shooting.

Roider’s attorney, T.J. Matthes, argued that his client acted in self-defense after Becker attacked Roider with a knife.

The jury deliberated for three hours before returning its verdict.

“There were a lot of rumors going around about what happened,” Matthes said. “Kyle wanted all along to get a chance to tell his story. He told his story at the trial — he told the truth, the entire truth.”

After two and a half years in jail, Roider told his story to the jury. He was cross-examined.

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When there is reasonable doubt, innocent until proven guilty applies.
1 posted on 09/02/2021 10:16:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Can he sue for damages e.g. pain and suffering?


2 posted on 09/02/2021 10:19:43 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
Can he sue for damages e.g. pain and suffering?

You can file a lawsuit for nearly anything.

However, prosecutors were given near absolute immunity from lawsuit by the Supreme Court in the 70's and 80's.

It is how the Soros paid prosecutors get away with such obvious abuse of power.

3 posted on 09/02/2021 10:30:05 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain

I should have clarified better. Can he possibly win a case for pain and suffering/wrongful imprisonment?


4 posted on 09/02/2021 10:31:54 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: marktwain

Lack of evidence, besides the corpse. Since the defendant rotted in jail for two and a half years, my guess is the jury also understood the hesitancy to call the police. No evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.


5 posted on 09/02/2021 10:33:08 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: marktwain

Long past time for Kyle of Kenosha’s trial to get rolling, and a similar result occur.


6 posted on 09/02/2021 10:34:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: EEGator

Not likely. If you’re not granted bail, you sit in jail until tried.

However he may be able to do something with the “speedy trial” angle.


7 posted on 09/02/2021 10:34:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Thanks for the explanation.


8 posted on 09/02/2021 10:37:20 AM PDT by EEGator
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*** Not likely. If you’re not granted bail, you sit in jail until tried.

However he may be able to do something with the “speedy trial” angle. ***

A friend of mine was murdered by her boyfriend (Texas in the 70’s). His skin was under her nails, He had scratches on his face and arms, pretty much a slam dunk. He was held w/o bail for 90 days. His lawyer got the charges against the boyfriend/murderer dismissed under the swift and speedy trial act, and he walked free.


9 posted on 09/02/2021 10:43:21 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: fruser1
If you’re not granted bail, you sit in jail until tried.

A liberal criminal defense attorney once told me that, if you read the Constitution properly, there is an absolute right to bail. Nothing about "danger to the community" or "likely to flee." Those exceptions to the "right to bail" were invented by the courts.

10 posted on 09/02/2021 10:44:18 AM PDT by Angelino97
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Kyle Rittenhouse's trial is scheduled to start in Kenosha on November 22, as I recall.

Jury selection is scheduled to start on 4 November, 2021.

11 posted on 09/02/2021 10:45:42 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Those exceptions to the "right to bail" were invented by the courts.

And state legislatures.

Most courts just make an extremely high bond.

In Kyle Rittenhouse's case, it was two million dollars! (for someone who had strong ties to the community, no criminal record, a plausible claim of self defense, and who had turned himself in a few hours later, after attempting to do so minutes after the incident.

12 posted on 09/02/2021 10:48:45 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain

Thanks.


13 posted on 09/02/2021 10:56:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain

Another right, the right to a swift and speedy trial, abrogated due to coronavirus.


14 posted on 09/02/2021 11:09:54 AM PDT by I-ambush (If we make it we’ll all sit back and laugh, but I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying)
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To: marktwain

Is there a reason you excerpted this instead of posting the entire article?


15 posted on 09/02/2021 11:33:31 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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My agreement with AmmoLand.


16 posted on 09/02/2021 11:41:32 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain

Remember Bernhard Goetz and Kyle Rittenhouse.

Never turn yourself in.
Never confess.


17 posted on 09/02/2021 11:45:54 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ( 87.9>12.1 people need to wake up. Why do the vaccinated fear the unvaxed? Taxation is theft.)
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To: marktwain
My agreement with AmmoLand.

Have you asked JimRob if this is okay with him?

FWIW, by posting excerpts and not the entire article you drive unsuspecting FReepers to the blogger's site so they can mine FReepers for clicks and impressions ad revenue.

"I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR."

-- Jim Robinson

18 posted on 09/02/2021 2:44:02 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: marktwain

We just had a local murder case resolve into a plea bargain four years after they arrested the killer.


19 posted on 09/02/2021 2:47:02 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: fruser1
However he may be able to do something with the “speedy trial” angle.

Unless he waived it. Under Illinois law the trial must begin within 120 days of arrest. That's not sufficient time to prepare in many cases so defendants waive their right to a speedy trial in order to give their lawyers more time to prepare. Of course once you waive it then all bets are off and the trial could be years down the road.

20 posted on 09/02/2021 3:01:03 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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