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Biden likely to lean on drone warfare in Afghanistan
The Hill ^ | 09/01/21 06:00 AM EDT | BY ELLEN MITCHELL

Posted on 09/01/2021 3:52:08 AM PDT by RandFan

The Biden administration is expected to increasingly rely on drone surveillance and strikes for counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan following Monday's U.S. exit from the country after 20 years of war.

President Biden this past week gave his top military commanders the authority to carry out several strikes on Islamic State affiliate targets in the country, a response to a suicide bombing near the airport Thursday that killed 13 U.S. service members and dozens of Afghans.

The drone attacks – including a Friday strike in Jalalabad near the Pakistan border that killed two militants, and a Sunday strike in Kabul that destroyed an ISIS-K car bomb – appeared calibrated to send a message to militant groups that though U.S. forces were leaving the country, military operations are likely to persist.

“To ISIS-K: We are not done with you yet,” Biden said in a fiery speech at the White House on Tuesday, vowing a “tough, unforgiving, targeted, precise strategy.”

But with boots no longer on the ground, the administration is limited in its options to deter terrorist threats, a situation complicated by limited intelligence and the reconnaissance needed to guide any future strikes.

“How many other ways can we exercise those sorts of operations? There’s not too many other options. We’re kind of stuck,” Barry Pavel, director of the Atlantic Council’s Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security, said of the administration’s new reliance on unmanned aerial vehicles.

“There’s not that many tools left in the tool kit if we don’t have people on the ground.”

Friday’s U.S. strike, carried out by a Reaper drone flown from the Persian Gulf region, killed two ISIS-K militants and injured a third individual, though the Pentagon has declined to release the identities of those targeted.

Sunday’s strike, meanwhile, targeted a vehicle that officials said was carrying “an imminent ISIS-K threat” to Kabul’s airport.

Biden on Tuesday touted the strikes, the first military actions against the terrorist group following Thursday’s deadly bombing outside the Kabul airport.

“Let me say it clearly to those who wish America harm, to those who engage in terrorism against us or our allies. Know this: The United States will never rest. We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down to the ends of the Earth, and you will pay the ultimate price,” Biden said.

But the increased drone use, coupled with limited intelligence, also comes with a higher chance of civilian casualties.

That reality was on full display Sunday, with reports indicating that 10 civilians, including seven children, were killed by the U.S. drone strike.

U.S. Central Command acknowledged reports of the deaths, explaining that a “large amount of explosive material inside may have caused additional casualties.”

Pentagon press secretary John Kirby told reporters on Monday that officials are “not in a position to dispute” the reports but emphasized that “no military on the face of the Earth works harder to avoid civilian casualties than the United States military, and nobody wants to see innocent life taken. We take it very, very seriously.”

A lack of U.S. forces in Afghanistan also means drones will be flown in from outside the country, requiring more resources to maintain them.

“If you’re launching a drone from in-country, you launch it, it does its thing and you recover it. If you’re launching it from farther away, it requires a lot more maintenance, sustainment. It deteriorates equipment more, it’s a significant resource drain,” Pavel said.

U.S. drone policy has been overhauled several times by recent administrations. Former President Obama, in taking over the war on terror from the George W. Bush administration, moved to tighten the metrics for how officials decided to conduct such operations.

But the Obama administration also preferred using drone strikes in non-battlefield settings rather than risk U.S. troops carrying out numerous counterterrorism missions.

In addition, Obama used a disputed method for counting civilian casualties for drone strikes outside the battlefield, tallying nearly all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, thus lowering the overall death toll as recorded by the Pentagon.

Former President Donald Trump loosened rules around drones, giving more discretion to commanders in the region and allowing them to carry out strikes in all but the most extreme circumstances, such as Trump’s order to hit Iranian general Qasem Soleimani in January 2020.

Upon taking office, Biden initiated a review of drone strike policy outside of conventional war zones and imposed temporary limits on such strikes. But the new policy has yet to materialize.

Pavel said it’s unclear whether Biden will significantly increase drone strikes in the region since “it depends on the trend” of violence.

“If the threat continues, in particular ISIS-K against Americans in Afghanistan or allies in Afghanistan or American interests somehow more broadly, then we’ll have to keep looking for them using surveillance of various sorts and then hitting them,” he said.

"There’s a lot more work to do if we want to significantly degrade that network."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; imrankhan; pakistan; taliban
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I know from previous discussions some Freepers are not as anti-war as me and don't care if Muslim women and children are killed but I do..

It breeds more hatred and more terrorism. Indeed the CIA call it 'blowback' (look it up) and are well aware of the long term consequences...

1 posted on 09/01/2021 3:52:08 AM PDT by RandFan
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Wow, so much for ‘ The War in Afghanistan is over’


2 posted on 09/01/2021 3:56:26 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: RandFan

We have no good strategic choices here:

1) Invade, put boots on the ground, build a better nation (we tried this; didn’t work at all)
2) Bomb them into the stone age, kill hundreds of thousands of people, possibly use nukes (inhumane, pointless (they are in the stone age), not acceptable to ethical people)
3) Pester them with tiny drones and make stuff inconvenient over there (what is the point of this?)

“Interesting game. The only way to win, is not to play.”
— “WarGames (1983)

We’ve left. Let’s act like that was the plan, and stick to it.


3 posted on 09/01/2021 4:02:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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To: KobraKai
‘ The War in Afghanistan is over’

He meant overhead.

4 posted on 09/01/2021 4:06:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I like Option 2 myself.

And putting down rabid dogs, by whatever means, is not inhumane.

L


5 posted on 09/01/2021 4:10:45 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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There are no good strategic choices here, now that China and the Taliban are publicly aligned.

Biden's not going to do anything to oppose China, so we're basically screwed. Taiwan better gear up for the coming battles with China.

6 posted on 09/01/2021 4:10:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: RandFan

Drones will not have clear skies as the tallies now have shoulder-fired US made anti-air missiles and 2 C-RAMS (which may go to China or be inoperable or go down with lack of maintenance).


7 posted on 09/01/2021 4:29:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RandFan

Biden likely to lean on drone warfare in Afghanistan


This should work out well for the diplomatic mission to get the rest of the people out. At least Lockheed Martin and Boeing should be happy.


8 posted on 09/01/2021 4:29:57 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: Night Hides Not

Taiwan is a dead man walking. Japan and South Korea had better come up with their own independent nuclear deterrent, like DeGaulle’s Force de frappe. Speaking of drones, how many did Biden leave the Taliban? I can’t imagine a better stand off terror weapon than one of our drones.


9 posted on 09/01/2021 4:33:44 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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“and don’t care if Muslim women and children are killed”

It’s not a good thing but we can’t save the world. Saving those Muslim women and children would require that we stay in Afghanistan.

We shouldn’t have left so quickly. I think Trump had a plan that would have worked out better.


10 posted on 09/01/2021 4:34:02 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Lurker

Inhumane is how they treat women.
Not to mention decapitating people.


11 posted on 09/01/2021 4:37:16 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: PIF
Drones will not have clear skies as the tallies now have shoulder-fired US made anti-air missiles and 2 C-RAMS (which may go to China or be inoperable or go down with lack of maintenance).

And since Biden left them a few, they are already in Chinese hands and they are most likely developing jamming measures against them.

12 posted on 09/01/2021 4:41:43 AM PDT by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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“And since Biden left them a few, they are already in Chinese hands and they are most likely developing jamming measures against them”

The drones are not stealth as far as I know so Pakistan and China can just shoot them down.


13 posted on 09/01/2021 4:44:38 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: RandFan

Pudding, Biden wants pudding.

CC


14 posted on 09/01/2021 4:49:22 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Leep

These fools who insist that we follow the Geneva Conventions while 7th century savages are setting people on fire will be the death of us. In war you get down to the level set by your opponents. If you want to win anyway.

L


15 posted on 09/01/2021 4:49:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: RandFan

“It breeds more hatred and more terrorism.”

Did the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki breed more war or did it bring peace?

L


16 posted on 09/01/2021 4:57:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: All

h/t Travis Mcgee

17 posted on 09/01/2021 5:02:42 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

18 posted on 09/01/2021 5:09:20 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Lurker

This is not a conventional situation an no one is arguing nuking Afghanistan. That would be absurd..


19 posted on 09/01/2021 5:15:32 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Freepers not anti-war? That is an understatement. Many Freepers think the solution to everything is a MOAB.

I agree that the Obama era habit of blowing up weddings is a bad idea.


20 posted on 09/01/2021 5:24:20 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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