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Hurricane Ida Exposes Grid Weaknesses As 2,000 Miles of High-Voltage Lines Damages
Nation & State ^ | 8-31-2021

Posted on 08/31/2021 7:28:10 AM PDT by blam

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To: shanover

I think it’s genius to have a city below sea level where hurricanes often hit.


21 posted on 08/31/2021 8:00:36 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: blam

Green energy delivery fail.

https://twitter.com/PermianLandman/status/1432187493726756869


22 posted on 08/31/2021 8:03:02 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: blam

I don’t know. I think if we can recover from losing 2000 miles of lines in a couple of weeks that shows strength not weakness. Disasters are called disasters for a reason. You really can’t expect a grid to stay up when that much cable gets taken out. The real question is what’s your recovery time.


23 posted on 08/31/2021 8:03:45 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: blueunicorn6


24 posted on 08/31/2021 8:08:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Some things are so stupid and idiotic only a liberal could believe them.)
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To: blam

I was involved in emergency planning/response in Oregon.

I can tell you all one thing: They plan for ALL of these contingencies and NOTHING is a surprise.

Caveat: What IS a surprise is that any money allocated to preparation is almost always pilfered for inconsequential needs or debacle projects.

Oregon’s preeminent example is its epic failure to create a statewide communications system which originated primarily to deal with the theoretical disaster on which exhaustive tabletop exercises were performed: Chemical leak from Umatilla Chemical Depot, where the US sent all its chemical weapons for incineration. The project later mushroomed to largesse & incompetence on multiple levels.

The failed radio project came on the heels of the 0bama-era Cover Oregon failure.

The prior was the $600 million Oregon Wireless Interoperability Network (OWIN), now camouflaged as the State Radio Project.

The government’s failure in its ability to plan for disasters has been demonstrated time & again, ‘Katrina’ being most notable.

In my region, the ‘Big One’ is the latest example of the failures, the ONLY demonstrable examples of planning being evacuation routes to high ground on the coast (aside from generous federal grants to pad their budgets and pay for trips to regional conferences to discuss other ways to fleece the taxpayers). Heaven help you if you reside on the west side of I5 (those knowledgeable will get the joke).

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2011/07/new_state_radio_project_emerge.html

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2014R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB4031/A-Engrossed

https://www.govtech.com/archive/oregon-governor-asks-director-of-state.html

The references above provide all the relevant terms for more research to those who choose to do a deeper dive.

Anyone who wants to counter my biting critique should know that I know a LOT more I can’t discuss. So go ahead and try to be relevant in defense of government planners. /s


25 posted on 08/31/2021 8:11:24 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: blam; Tilted Irish Kilt; Pollard
Customers have been panic searching Generac generators and generators since the hurricane made landfall.

You’d think they’d have figured out by now that they are in a hurricane bullseye and already have a generator.

Why wait until disaster strikes to decide to do something about it?

Talk about normalacy bias.

26 posted on 08/31/2021 8:15:34 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: SecondAmendment

Right. And instead of modernizing and hardening the antique grid system Biden wants to squander our hard earned money on his green bull shit and “social program” giveaways. Sweet.


27 posted on 08/31/2021 8:27:21 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: blam
Seems kind of light duty


28 posted on 08/31/2021 8:43:02 AM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: Pollard

Sure does. I guess they’ll need another 100 billion to get these up to code. Their failure to build their infrastructure to hold up to their unique weather is now going to cost us all.


29 posted on 08/31/2021 8:46:16 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Old infrastructure. Looks like something built in the 40s or 50s before enormous portable cranes. Basically a big erector set. Back then, guy’s would climb it as they built it.


30 posted on 08/31/2021 8:59:01 AM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: metmom; blam; Pollard
metmom :" Why wait until disaster strikes to decide to do something about it?
Talk about normalacy bias."

" Normalacy Bias " is a typical human characteristic,
and exhibits itself almost as frequently as "procrastination".
The parable of the 12 Virgins for a wedding feast comes to mind.

31 posted on 08/31/2021 8:59:39 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: blam

Hi, I hope you are doing well.

I know everyone knows this, but going through a Cat. 4 or 5 hurricanes is not fun.

Cat. 4-5 hurricanes not only kill people and destroy towns, but also rearrange geography. Bigly.

5.56mm


32 posted on 08/31/2021 9:15:53 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Guess who ends up taking it in the shorts

https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/hurricanes-could-make-us-and-asian-offshore-projects-uninsurable/2-1-647696


33 posted on 08/31/2021 9:23:15 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Pollard

Depends on the footing, wind goes thru those things but if the footing is compromised than fuhgetabout it
Also if the tower before or after a tower goes south (your photo) it pulls over others.
Kinda like a week link


34 posted on 08/31/2021 9:44:00 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Pollard
Seems kind of light duty.

I know, right?

It seems like they might have actually rebuilt PROPERLY at some point in the many times past, rather than just slap it up and move along.
35 posted on 08/31/2021 9:46:33 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: blam

Just put up a few windmills. No biggie.


36 posted on 08/31/2021 9:49:22 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Ephesians 6:12)
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To: EEGator

I purchased cash a brand new F150 Lariat loaded after Andrews OT


37 posted on 08/31/2021 10:16:07 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Bell Bouy II

Nice, are/were you a Lineman or Foreman?

Our guys bought boats or Corvettes after being in PR double time for a month.


38 posted on 08/31/2021 10:19:47 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Bayard
"Imagine, a cat 4 hurricane that lands in the USA and causes no damage at all."

As destructive as Ida was, the fact of the matter is that it probably hit one of the least densely populated coastal areas in the entire USA.


39 posted on 08/31/2021 10:26:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: EEGator

Telco S Fl
Worked a few over 30 yrs Mia up to Charleston


40 posted on 08/31/2021 10:27:31 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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