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Biden defends 'messy' US pullout from Afghanistan (BBC not impressed)
BBC ^ | August 16, 2021 | The Beeb

Posted on 08/16/2021 8:06:03 PM PDT by DoodleBob

President Joe Biden has said he stands "squarely" behind the US exit from Afghanistan as he faces withering criticism over the Taliban's lightning conquest of the war-torn country.

"How many more American lives is it worth?" asked the Democratic president.

He said that despite the "messy" pullout, "there was never a good time to withdraw US forces".

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Kabul was the last major city in Afghanistan to fall to a Taliban offensive that began months ago but accelerated in recent days as they gained control of territories, shocking many observers.

Mr Biden returned on Monday to the White House from the Camp David presidential retreat to make his first public remarks on Afghanistan in nearly a week.

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Mr Biden is facing intense political backlash over the turmoil in Kabul following his April decision to order all American troops out of Afghanistan by 11 September - the 20 year anniversary of the terror attacks that triggered the US invasion.

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He said that when he was vice-president he had opposed the 2009 deployment of thousands more troops into the country by former President Barack Obama.

Mr Biden also noted he had inherited a deal negotiated with the Taliban under former President Donald Trump for the US to withdraw from Afghanistan by May of this year.

Mr Biden campaigned as a seasoned expert in foreign policy and declared after assuming office this year that "America is back".

Last month he assured reporters it was "highly unlikely" the Taliban would overrun the entire country.

But he conceded on Monday that "this did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bbc; biden; islam
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He said that when he was vice-president he had opposed the 2009 deployment of thousands more troops into the country by former President Barack Obama.

He's desparate...he's blaming Obama.

And the BBC isn't sugar-coating Bidet's performance.

1 posted on 08/16/2021 8:06:03 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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And the BBC isn't sugar-coating Bidet's performance.

Because Biduns actions are going to get not only Americans killed but Brits as well.

2 posted on 08/16/2021 8:08:41 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: DoodleBob

Bkmk


3 posted on 08/16/2021 8:08:42 PM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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To: DoodleBob

More Americans are going to be killed or paraded around as prisoners than were killed in 20 years of war.


4 posted on 08/16/2021 8:09:22 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: DoodleBob

He’s so full of Kabulsh#t!


5 posted on 08/16/2021 8:09:24 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: DoodleBob

F the Limeys, they hated Trump. Why are they complaining?


6 posted on 08/16/2021 8:09:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob

Now that Biden will be housing 30,000 Afghans on our military bases, does anyone remember the murder of soldiers at Fort Hood Texas?

Lessons from the Fort Hood Terrorist Attack

Nov 5, 2020

November 5, two days after the election, marks the eleventh anniversary of Nidal Hasan’s terrorist attack at Fort Hood, Texas. Hasan’s murder of 13 Americans could easily have been prevented, but the previous administration chose to look the other way.
U.S. Army Major Nidal Hasan came to the attention of the FBI for the 18 emails he sent to terrorist mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki. Maj. Hasan, a self-described “soldier of Allah,” wanted Awlaki’s permission to kill American soldiers and innocent civilians in the cause of jihad. “Please keep me in your Rolodex in case you find me useful,” Hasan wrote, “and please feel free to call me collect.”
That rang alarms at the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force in San Diego, and agents alerted the Washington Field office. The WFO response said: “Given the context of his military and medical research and the content of his, to date, unanswered email messages from al-Awlaki, WFO does not currently assess Hasan to be involved in terrorist activities.” The FBI boss dropped the case and that was a matter of policy.
President Obama refused to link Islam with terrorism and on his watch the FBI focused on Americans who advocated limited government and valued constitutional rights such as the First and Second Amendments. Islamic terrorists took full advantage.
On November 5, 2009, at Ford Hood, U.S. soldiers were getting their final medical checkups before deploying to Afghanistan. Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, yelled “Allahu akbar” and began gunning down the soldiers. His victims, all unarmed included private Francheska Velez, 21, who was pregnant. The Muslim major killed two other women that day along with 10 men, more than twice as many victims as the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.
Hasan also wounded more than 40 others, including Sergeant Alonzo Lunsford, who played dead before fleeing the building. Major Hasan chased down Lunsford, an African-American, and shot him seven times, including one bullet in the back. Major Hasan shot Sergeant Shawn Manning in the chest and pumped four rounds into Sgt. Patrick Zeigler. Hasan would have killed many more if civilian police officer Kim Munley had not wounded the terrorist.
The administration of POTUS 44, proclaimed the murder spree a case of “workplace violence,” not terrorism or even gun violence. This rendered Hasan’s victims ineligible for medals and other benefits related to combat. The following April, the White House declined Sgt. Lunsford’s request to meet with the president and explain the raw deal the government had dealt the Fort Hood victims.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/lessons-fort-hood-terrorist-attack-lloyd-billingsley/


7 posted on 08/16/2021 8:13:56 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: DoodleBob

I think everyone is realizing that Emperor Biden has no clothes, plus that he is demented and that travels with a posse of fools.


8 posted on 08/16/2021 8:14:09 PM PDT by WMarshal (The Pleasant American )
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To: Nateman

https://twitter.com/i/status/1427461306429448195

This is on Biden

Warning
Graphic results of biden’s actions


9 posted on 08/16/2021 8:14:24 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: dfwgator

“F the Limeys, they hated Trump. Why are they complaining?”

The Brits have had troops with the Americans for the entire 20 years. They were assigned certain provinces to control and took casualties just as we did. They didn’t have near the numbers as we did, but they were there and have people in Afghanistan now.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 8:15:59 PM PDT by elpadre ( )
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To: DoodleBob

“He said that despite the “messy” pullout, “there was never a good time to withdraw US forces”.”

It was messy because of a weak President. Muslims sense weakness.

A better time to pull out would have been during a strong US presidency.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 8:16:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: elpadre

I’m talking the BBC, they had orgasms there when Trump lost.

They don’t get to walk it back now. They own it.


12 posted on 08/16/2021 8:17:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: plain talk

The best time to pull out would have been 78 years ago…


13 posted on 08/16/2021 8:18:32 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I miss out mean tweeting, man spreading, room owning President…)
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To: KeyLargo
Lessons from the Fort Hood Terrorist Attack

"Diversity is our greatest strength" - chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey.

With these kind of folks in charge of our Military (and worse characters running our Government) ... things are not looking rosy.

14 posted on 08/16/2021 8:20:34 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: DoodleBob; Nateman; frogjerk; WMarshal; dfwgator
I would say the guys in utilities create the environment for winning a war, but then the folks in suits have to secure the final victory. Mao Tse-tung, echoing Sun Tzu, said “It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed”. War and politics reside on a continuum. They are not a dichotomy. War as overt and covert conflict invests and surrounds traditional diplomacy with the force to bring meaningful change by frustrating plans, breaking alliances, isolating factions/regimes, and engaging the enemy’s mind with scenarios where war as overt conflict becomes the ultimate arbiter.

Once again politicians and their acolytes in the State Department failed to respond to this reality thereby disregarding the sacrifices of our armed forces, which had created an environment for victory so many years ago before Obama became president. Even today is a great example of just how far the State Department is detached from reality.

State Department calls for Taliban to include women in its government https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul

15 posted on 08/16/2021 8:23:44 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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Methinks the Brits are a bit ticked.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear the exchange behind the scenes between the Biden Admin and 10 Downing. Small countries like Norway and Denmark were able to fly under the radar. They closed there embassies and evacuated before the schiff hit the fan last week. The UK had a bigger footprint in Afghanistan and the US begging them to stay while telling them everything will be alright. (Pure conjecture, but it will come out one day when it no longer matters.)

16 posted on 08/16/2021 8:24:33 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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FU Boris!

17 posted on 08/16/2021 8:26:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob

UK elites must be incensed that the US will get a bigger swarm of those wonderful Afghan refugees.


18 posted on 08/16/2021 8:29:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: DoodleBob
"'How many more American lives is it worth?' asked the Democratic president."

Also in the news: US goes one year without a combat death in Afghanistan as Taliban warn against reneging on peace deal [just 8 months ago]

Trump already stabilized Afghanistan. We could have kept a perpetual regional base there like we have in Germany, Japan, Korea and Cuba. Just food for thought.

Also, the man who tortures peaceful protestors and tourists does not care about American lives.

19 posted on 08/16/2021 8:31:15 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: dfwgator; ConservativeInPA
A few Brits I know half-jokingly refer to America as their "colony."

The reality is, as messed up as is America, we are way better off than the U.K.

They hated Trump, because as much as he treated England well, he pointed out their failures.

That's no way for a colony to treat the Crown, they probably thought. So they cheered Bidet.

And now that cheering is coming home to roost. Pity. They can go sod off.

20 posted on 08/16/2021 8:36:59 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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