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500 years after Aztec rule, Mexico confronts a complicated anniversary
National Geographic ^ | 8/12/21 | ANDRÉS RESÉNDEZ

Posted on 08/12/2021 2:02:01 PM PDT by Borges

Was the 1521 surrender of the great Indigenous empire to the Spanish crown a triumphant conquest, an existential tragedy—or even a genocide?

The remains of a massive cypress tree sits inside a small plaza in Mexico City, surrounded by fencing and illuminated by four spotlights at night. An old sign explains its significance: “This is the tree where Hernán Cortés wept after being defeated by the Aztec defenders.”

We Mexicans call it El Árbol de la Noche Triste, or The Tree of the Sad Night, and learn about it since grade school from government-issued history textbooks. The story goes something like this: In March 1519, a couple of hundred Spaniards, led by a stubborn but resourceful man with some legal training named Hernán Cortés, appeared on the Gulf of Mexico coast. They established contact with the mighty Aztecs of central Mexico and, after exchanging messages and gifts, made their way to the Valley of Mexico and the Aztec stronghold of Tenochtitlan (downtown Mexico City).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aztec; aztecs; conquistador; conquistadors; cortez; mexico; spain
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1 posted on 08/12/2021 2:02:01 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Only America has to feel guilty about events in its past.


2 posted on 08/12/2021 2:03:52 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Borges

Need to enter your email address before reading the article.


3 posted on 08/12/2021 2:06:22 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Identify As Vaccinated - non-injected. Jab Me Not)
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To: Borges

Cortez and and Spanish soldiers arriving was like the allied armies rolling into maxi death camps. They were heroes for eradicating that pagan mass murder cult.


4 posted on 08/12/2021 2:06:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Steely Tom

Canada is having a virtue-signalling melt down these days too.


5 posted on 08/12/2021 2:07:22 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Borges

To not mourn the tragedy of the Aztecs is really heartless :-)


6 posted on 08/12/2021 2:07:30 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: Borges

On of the best things to happen to the peoples and tribes under Aztec oppression.

They were EATEN for God’s Sake!


7 posted on 08/12/2021 2:07:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Borges
The Mexicans have been celebrating early with all of the beheadings over the past few years.
8 posted on 08/12/2021 2:07:59 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Borges

Happy Anniversary!







9 posted on 08/12/2021 2:08:28 PM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: Borges

Now I’ve seen everything. The Aztecs claim to be the victims of a Spanish genocide. Never mind all those people they cut their hearts out of, hundreds and thousands at a time. Never mind the nearby Tribes they eradicated and enslaved. No, it was the Aztecs who are the victims of a genocide. Are you freaking kidding me?


10 posted on 08/12/2021 2:08:59 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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11 posted on 08/12/2021 2:12:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: DesertRhino

Most of the other tribes in Mexico allied with the Spanish to defeat the Aztecs.


12 posted on 08/12/2021 2:12:29 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Borges

Most of today’s Mexicans are descended from people who fought alongside the Spaniards to overthrow the hated Aztecs. I hope they remember that, although if Mexican public schools are politicized as ours, perhaps they don’t.

Cortes and a few hundred Spanish adventurers did not defeat the Aztecs. Cortes somehow catalyzed a revolt of most of the non-Aztec groups in the region, whose leaders undoubtedly saw the Spanish as a game changer on the battlefield. Since the alternative was having your heart cut out with a stone knife with your head decorating the skull racks, taking a chance on the Spanish alliance seemed a reasonable bet.

As a practical matter, the Spanish were so few in number that none of the Indians probably saw them as potential rulers. At the village level, little changed initially. Tribute that had formerly been paid to the Aztecs was still paid up the chain, with the Spanish taking their cut at the top. But the same village elders and local chiefs continued to run things locally.

The black swan event was the disease wave that killed perhaps 90 percent of the Indians. That changed everything, but that was only just beginning when Tenochtitlan fell.


13 posted on 08/12/2021 2:12:40 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: billorites

Oh I forgot about Canada.


14 posted on 08/12/2021 2:12:42 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: DesertRhino

That pagan mass murder cult could not have been defeated by Cortez and his 300 something soldiers alone. The relatives of those murdered were more than eager to join them.


15 posted on 08/12/2021 2:15:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Borges

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zS0uR6_PFbs

Conquistador...


16 posted on 08/12/2021 2:17:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: BenLurkin
A lithograph published in an old National Geographic book on the topic that included similar gory pictures back when they actually printed history and not global warming propaganda.

And this guy was one of the lucky ones who actually volunteered for the human sacrifice. Tens of thousands of members from conquered tribes had no say in the matter.

17 posted on 08/12/2021 2:19:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: broken_clock

:)


18 posted on 08/12/2021 2:20:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Borges

What tree did Mexico’s best cry under when Texans kick their butt out and became a country?


19 posted on 08/12/2021 2:20:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: sphinx

I know it’s the trendy answer that the Spanish didn’t do much on their own. That’s not the case. Everywhere they went they prevailed. They didn’t have an alliance of friendly tribes to help them defeat the Incas.
The fact is, they usually prevail in open combat. And where they didn’t, they do used superior training tactics and equipment to organize the defeat of the main enemy. Basically a special forces mission. The Spanish soldier and his ability really was a thing back in those days.


20 posted on 08/12/2021 2:21:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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