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Leftists Revive the Hands Up Don’t Shoot Lie
townhall.com ^ | 8/10/2021 1100 hrs EDT | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 08/10/2021 8:21:39 AM PDT by rktman

Monday marked the 7th anniversary of the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. The young man was justifiably shot and killed by Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson in August 2014 after he attempted to take Wilson's gun during a struggle in a police vehicle. The encounter happened shortly after Brown robbed a convenience store and assaulted a clerk.

After months of riots and an investigation from the Obama Justice Department, led at the time by Attorney General Eric Holder, these facts remained true.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: lyingliars
Hey, it worked then, might as well bring it back for a 2nd go. Just another lie perpetrated by the left. Like all Trump supporters are grand kleagles and bruth sthpringstein is an awesome singer and the great society is ready for a reset and CONvid-one9 vaccines are safe and effective and............... You get the gist.
1 posted on 08/10/2021 8:21:39 AM PDT by rktman
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TWENTY FIVE TOP QUOTES FROM THE DOJ’S REPORT ON THE MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING

http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf

(For official DOJ report, Google “DOJ Report on Shooting of Michael Brown PDF.”)

[01] The evidence, when viewed as a whole, does not support the conclusion that Wilson’s uses of deadly force were “objectively unreasonable” under the Supreme Court’s definition. (Page 5)

[02] when the store clerk tried to stop Brown, Brown used his physical size to stand over him and forcefully shove him away. (Page 6)

[03] Wilson was aware of the theft and had a description of the suspects as he encountered Brown and Witness 101. (Page 6)

[04] Autopsy results and bullet trajectory, skin from Brown’s palm on the outside of the SUV door as well as Brown’s DNA on the inside of the driver’s door corroborate Wilson’s account that during the struggle, Brown used his right hand to grab and attempt to control Wilson’s gun. (Page 6)

[05] there is no credible evidence to disprove Wilson’s account of what occurred inside the SUV. (Page 7)

[06] autopsy results confirm that Wilson did not shoot Brown in the back as he was running away because there were no entrance wounds to Brown’s back. (Page 7)

[07] witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts (Page 8)

[08] several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson. (Page 8)

[09] The physical evidence also establishes that Brown moved forward toward Wilson after he turned around to face him. The physical evidence is corroborated by multiple eyewitnesses. (Page 10)

[10] evidence does not establish that it was unreasonable for Wilson to perceive Brown as a threat while Brown was punching and grabbing him in the SUV and attempting to take his gun. (Page 11)

[11] Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses (Page 12)

[12] Wilson’s account was consistent with those results, and consistent with the accounts of other independent eyewitnesses, whose accounts were also consistent with the physical evidence. Wilson’s statements were consistent with each other in all material ways, and would not be subject to effective impeachment for inconsistencies or deviation from the physical evidence.8 Therefore, in analyzing all of the evidence, federal prosecutors found Wilson’s account to be credible. (Page 16)

[13] Witness accounts suggesting that Brown was standing still with his hands raised in an unambiguous signal of surrender when Wilson shot Brown are inconsistent with the physical evidence, are otherwise not credible because of internal inconsistencies, or are not credible because of inconsistencies with other credible evidence. (Page 78)

[14] Multiple credible witnesses corroborate virtually every material aspect of Wilson’s account and are consistent with the physical evidence. (Page 78)

[15] several of these witnesses stated that they would have felt threatened by Brown and would have responded in the same way Wilson did. (Page 82)

[16] there are no witnesses who could testify credibly that Wilson shot Brown while Brown was clearly attempting to surrender. (Page 83)

[17] There is no witness who has stated that Brown had his hands up in surrender whose statement is otherwise consistent with the physical evidence. (Page 83)

[18] The media has widely reported that there is witness testimony that Brown said “don’t shoot” as he held his hands above his head. In fact, our investigation did not reveal any eyewitness who stated that Brown said “don’t shoot.” (Page 83)

[19] Wilson did not know that Brown was not armed at the time he shot him, and had reason to suspect that he might be when Brown reached into the waistband of his pants as he advanced toward Wilson. (Page 84)

[20] Wilson did not have time to determine whether Brown had a gun and was not required to risk being shot himself in order to make a more definitive assessment.

[21] In addition, even assuming that Wilson definitively knew that Brown was not armed, Wilson was aware that Brown had already assaulted him once and attempted to gain control of his gun. (Page 85)

[22] Wilson has a strong argument that he was justified in firing his weapon at Brown as he continued to advance toward him and refuse commands to stop, and the law does not require Wilson to wait until Brown was close enough to physically assault Wilson. (Page 85)

[23] we must avoid substituting our personal notions of proper police procedure for the instantaneous decision of the officer at the scene. We must never allow the theoretical, sanitized world of our imagination to replace the dangerous and complex world that policemen face every day.” (Page 85)

[24] “It may appear, in the calm aftermath, that an officer could have taken a different course, but we do not hold the police to such a demanding standard.” (citing Gardner v. Buerger, 82 F.3d 248, 251 (8th Cir. 1996) (same))). Rather, where, as here, an officer points his gun at a suspect to halt his advance, that suspect should be on notice that “escalation of the situation would result in the use of the firearm.” Estate of Morgan at 498. An officer is permitted to continue firing until the threat is neutralized. See Plumhoff v. Rickard, 134 S.Ct. 2012, 2022 (2014) (“Officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended”). For all of the reasons stated, Wilson’s conduct in shooting Brown as he advanced on Wilson, and until he fell to the ground, was not objectively unreasonable and thus not a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242. (Page 85)

[25] Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. (Page 86)

For the reasons set forth above, this matter lacks prosecutive merit and should be closed.


2 posted on 08/10/2021 8:23:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: rktman

Can we do “Hands up, don’t jab?”


3 posted on 08/10/2021 8:28:11 AM PDT by Salamander ("Salamander has barbaric tendencies" /Gundog)
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To: rktman

Michael Brown, like Saint Skittles before him, found out the hard way that if you attack an armed man you should expect to get shot.


4 posted on 08/10/2021 8:28:58 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Beat me to it. I have that list bookmarked on my FR links page.


5 posted on 08/10/2021 8:29:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Michael Brown case, is a good example of a liberal narrative being at odds with the facts of a case.

I think it’s also noteworthy, that Obama and Eric Holder did their investigation, and even considering the biases of Eric Holder, could not overcome the actual facts discovered. So there was no federal indictment for civil rights violations, or any other legal violation.


6 posted on 08/10/2021 8:29:21 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Salamander
Can we do “Hands up, don’t jab?”

Well, people who took the jab are now borrowing "I can't breathe"

7 posted on 08/10/2021 8:31:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: rktman

“Leftists Revive the Hands Up Don’t Shoot Lie”

They will continue pushing their BS until the shooting starts and then run back and hide their their momma’s basement.


8 posted on 08/10/2021 8:32:19 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: 1Old Pro

Don’t jab be bro


9 posted on 08/10/2021 8:33:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

LOL, Don’t jab me Bro.


10 posted on 08/10/2021 8:33:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Savage and well played


11 posted on 08/10/2021 8:37:00 AM PDT by Salamander ("Salamander has barbaric tendencies" /Gundog)
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To: rktman

The hands up don’t shoot lie has caused irreparable damage to race relations and to our nation. The original lying witnesses should have been prosecuted.


12 posted on 08/10/2021 8:48:47 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: rktman
Somebody had to post this. Guess it'll be me:


13 posted on 08/10/2021 8:49:45 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: doug from upland

“...lying witnesses should have been prosecuted...” They put their hands up so they got a pass.


14 posted on 08/10/2021 8:51:09 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yup. Another ass-pie-ring wrapper turnin’ his life arount gittin’ redy for community college.


15 posted on 08/10/2021 8:53:06 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: rktman; All

16 posted on 08/10/2021 8:55:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Who did the little guy in the white shirt think he was? How dare he.


17 posted on 08/10/2021 9:01:05 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: rktman

Gunshot residue on a bullet wound on the Gentle Giant’s hand proves that the cop was telling the truth when he said that said “giant” tried to take his firearm. The autopsy also proves that he was telling the truth on other points and that the so called “eye witnesses” were either lying of hallucinating.


18 posted on 08/10/2021 10:28:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Salamander

No, that is against the “suggestion”
If it were against the “law”, then it would be perfectly legal to ignore it.


19 posted on 08/10/2021 11:59:28 AM PDT by Zathras
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