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Delta Infections Threaten Herd Immunity Vaccine Strategy
Children’s Health Defense ^ | 8-3-21 | Owen Der

Posted on 08/03/2021 6:02:56 PM PDT by Meah

Jeffrey Shaman, an epidemiologist at Columbia University, said, “In some sense, vaccination is now about personal protection — protecting oneself against severe disease. Herd immunity is not relevant as we are seeing plenty of evidence of repeat and breakthrough infections.”

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This excerpt gets to the main point, in my opinion: Leaky vaccines are a personal choice not a civic duty.
1 posted on 08/03/2021 6:02:56 PM PDT by Meah
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To: Meah

As I understand it, with the “vaccine”, when you actually get COVID, you will be less sick. Which is nice for you but doesn’t help other people.

Mandating the “vaccine” because we need to “protect others” is just illogical. That’s not the benefit of this medicine.


2 posted on 08/03/2021 6:06:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: Meah

No need to worry.

The hospitals there have had more than a year to prepare for any “surge.”

Everything should be fine.


3 posted on 08/03/2021 6:08:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That you will be less sick is an unproveable assumption.


4 posted on 08/03/2021 6:08:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That is correct.


5 posted on 08/03/2021 6:10:44 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Meah

6 posted on 08/03/2021 6:12:59 PM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Absolutely. I think the “vaccine” is actually a bad thing which causes variants, delays real herd immunity, and empowers government to exert totalitarian policies. And all of this is made possible by, as you say, an unprovable assumption.


7 posted on 08/03/2021 6:13:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Which is nice for you but doesn’t help other people.”
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This article is very misleading. Yes, the vaccine protects you SUBSTANTIALLY but not perfectly. The vaccine also SUBSTANTIALLY but not perfectly reduces the capability of an infected vaccinated person to infect others compared to an infected non-vaccinated person.

This is simply more of the never ending flow of FEAR PORN meant to hello support the government overlords continuation of their tyrannical controls.


8 posted on 08/03/2021 6:13:21 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Meah

I subscribe to this excellent site. I find this article confusing and sent a link to my friend, a pharmaceutical company exec and asked her to tell me what it really means.

BTW, I’m waiting for Novavax. My HMO will offer it 30 days after it’s released and they have time to see how safe it is.


9 posted on 08/03/2021 6:13:41 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Meah

In science, the symbol delta represents change.

In the case of the “delta variant,” it simply stands for a slight change in the ongoing deception about coronavirus.


10 posted on 08/03/2021 6:15:19 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Meah

11 posted on 08/03/2021 6:15:53 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Meah

“In some sense, vaccination is now about personal protection — protecting oneself against severe disease. Herd immunity is not relevant as we are seeing plenty of evidence of repeat and breakthrough infections.”

Translation. These vaccines are not working to provide a durable immunity that breaks viral transmission. They are perhaps, instead, acting as viral amplifiers thru ADE.


12 posted on 08/03/2021 6:16:18 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: Meah

This sounds self contradictory. I have seen reports that the previously infected and recovered enjoy greater resistance to Delta.

So, herd immunity is highly relevant. We would be better off against new strains relying on natural immunity than this spike-only vaccine.

If we did not want the deaths associated with natural immunity, we should develop a full dead or attenuated virus vaccine. This would also address any issues which may arise from mRNA spikes appearing throughout the body.


13 posted on 08/03/2021 6:17:21 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: knarf

Scary.


14 posted on 08/03/2021 6:20:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Meah

Amazing how so many crises pop up just when the totalitarians need them most.


15 posted on 08/03/2021 6:21:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Jane Long

We’ll soon find out.


16 posted on 08/03/2021 6:22:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They also completely ignore and dismiss natural immunity most people already have. Its superior in every aspect to the crap they demand to inject into people. For their own health, you know.


17 posted on 08/03/2021 6:23:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Meah

The Fauci/Xiden Variant = The Delta Variant = What the Xiden’s illegals brought/bring into America!

However, the good news is: Delta Variant’s Natural Immunity is 700% Better Than the Vaccine!

https://noqreport.com/2021/07/27/delta-variant-natural-immunity-700-better-than-the-vaccine/

| 27 JULY 2021 | by Dr. Joseph Mercola


18 posted on 08/03/2021 6:23:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in Australia, China, Cuba, Canada, Chicago I'd move there! Covid 19 über alles!)
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To: Meah

By what objective measure can *any* medical countermeasure claim as much efficacy as my wedding ring, which was guaranteed to keep elephants away and has done a swell job to date?

There is absolutely no way to tell, short of draconian monitoring, whether an injection has effectively squelched and defeated the attempted assault of a virus.


19 posted on 08/03/2021 6:26:02 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audits. No peace.)
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To: Veto!
BTW, I’m waiting for Novavax.

I like the concept of the Novavax vaccine. It's closer to a traditional vaccine. Instead of using mRNA to trigger the host to construct the viral spike protein, Novavax has in essence constructed a 'fake' Covid virus consisting of spike proteins they grow and "harvest" externally, which they then attach to a nanoparticle to mimic the appearance of the actual Covid virus. So it amounts to a look-alike "model" of the virus, but without the ability to replicate.

20 posted on 08/03/2021 6:26:13 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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