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Israel won't let Olympic gold medalist Dolgopyat marry
The Jerusalem Post ^ | August 2, 2021 | Jeremy Sharon

Posted on 08/02/2021 2:26:12 PM PDT by sockmonkey

Artem Dolgopyat, Israeli Olympic gold medalist, is not Jewish according to Jewish law and would therefore not be allowed to legally marry in Israel.

Artem Dolgopyat, Israel’s second-ever Olympic gold medalist, cannot get married in the State of Israel, his mother said Sunday.

Dolgopyat, who won an Olympic gold medal in the finals of the men’s floor exercise at the 2020 Tokyo Games on Sunday, is not Jewish according to Jewish law.

His mother, Angela, is not Jewish, she told Radio 103FM on Sunday, meaning her children are not Jewish according to Orthodox law. Artem’s father is Jewish, she said.

Israel has no provision for civil marriage, and citizens can only marry through established religious institutions, such as the Chief Rabbinate, which will only marry members of the same religion. Israelis like Dolgopyat who are not considered Jewish according to Orthodox halacha do not have a way to get married in the State of Israel.

The Dolgopyat family made aliyah from the Ukraine to give Artem better opportunities to progress in his discipline.

Asked by the radio interviewers when Artem might give her a grandchild, Angela said he has a girlfriend from Belarus with whom he has been living for three years. But “the state won’t let him get married,” she said, referring to the lack of civil marriage in the country.

Some 9,000 couples every year register civil marriages performed abroad with the Population and Immigration Authority. However, such couples have not been able to travel abroad during the COVID-19 pandemic, leaving many without recourse.

Angela said it was difficult for Artem to travel because of the demanding requirements of his training.

Her comments sparked a debate on social media over the issue.

Labor MK Gilad Kariv, a former director of the Reform Movement in Israel, tweeted: “The right to get married in your country or in accordance with your conscience is not connected to Olympic medals or any other achievement,” but rather something that every country should enable for all its citizens.

“It is a basic right, or in short, Artem, you, a champion, will continue to bring medals, and we will continue to fight strongly to bring you free choice in marriage and divorce,” Kariv wrote.

Although the Labor Party and the Meretz Party, both members of the governing coalition, are both in favor of civil marriage, their coalition agreements with Yesh Atid merely stipulate that the sides work to advance “a solution for partnership status for couples who cannot get married.”

The coalition agreement between Yesh Atid and Yamina, which takes precedence over all the other agreements, does not include any clauses about advancing civil marriage. In addition, it says no reforms will be enacted to the current status quo on religion-and-state issues unless there is agreement within the coalition to make such changes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marriage; mudbloods
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1 posted on 08/02/2021 2:26:12 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey

Being named Dolgopyat pretty much excludes you from marriage.


2 posted on 08/02/2021 2:29:18 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: sockmonkey

Jewishness is passed on through the mother, because you are not always certain of the father’s identity.


3 posted on 08/02/2021 2:34:17 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: sockmonkey

It’s like a modern day Romeo and Juliet. Hopefully the ending is nicer in real life.


4 posted on 08/02/2021 2:37:52 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: sockmonkey

Israel is on the whole a great country, but in some respects it’s a mess, and marriage laws is one of those respects.


5 posted on 08/02/2021 2:38:41 PM PDT by devere
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To: humblegunner

Oh my, humblegunner actually made a funny!


6 posted on 08/02/2021 2:43:07 PM PDT by smalltownslick (a)
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To: devere

Is it true that a couple — non-practicing Jews, even atheists — can be married?


7 posted on 08/02/2021 2:43:18 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: sockmonkey

Just go to Las Vegas


8 posted on 08/02/2021 2:43:38 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: sockmonkey

A quarter of the Israeli population are Arabs or other ethnicities. How do they legally marry? Sounds more like Muzzie law than Jewish law.


9 posted on 08/02/2021 2:48:55 PM PDT by twister881
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To: sockmonkey

Aren’t they the ones who promote gay marriage or marrying your dog?


10 posted on 08/02/2021 2:50:56 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: sockmonkey

Artem Dolgopyat
11 posted on 08/02/2021 2:51:53 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Bookshelf

*** Is it true that a couple — non-practicing Jews, even atheists — can be married? ***

Israeli law does not accommodate civil marriages, and the state only accepts marriages performed through the Orthodox Chief Rabbinate or existing institutions of Islam, Christianity and other recognized religions. This essentially excludes matrimony of those with no religious affiliation and mixed couples.


12 posted on 08/02/2021 2:53:56 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: sockmonkey

Article is a bit disingenuous it seems.

No one can get a state marriage it seems.

Interesting.

Maybe the U.S. should do this.


13 posted on 08/02/2021 2:55:50 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: twister881
A quarter of the Israeli population are Arabs or other ethnicities. How do they legally marry?

"Israel has no provision for civil marriage, and citizens can only marry through established religious institutions, such as the Chief Rabbinate," -- so Muslims would get married by Muslim clerics, and Christians would get married by their won clerics.

In Israel, only Orthodox rabbis are allowed to conduct weddings among Jews

14 posted on 08/02/2021 2:59:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: ifinnegan

The US? Under fraud pedojoe green gobbler bidet, Artem will be awarded a gold star sewn into his jacket.


15 posted on 08/02/2021 3:00:00 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sockmonkey

I wonder if a Christian minister could marry them? Or if they both have to be Christians for this to be allowed?


16 posted on 08/02/2021 3:01:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: JimRed

Difficult to have a mom named Rahab, Tamar or Ruth, and still be Jewish, I guess….

What a stupid example of rabbinic Judaism… non Biblical.


17 posted on 08/02/2021 3:02:12 PM PDT by fishtank
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I guess, he could officially covert to Judaism. Then he would be allowed to marry by rabbi. Apparently that’s a long process, but anybody can convert to Judaism eventually.


18 posted on 08/02/2021 3:15:35 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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But you understood the Rahab, Tamar and Ruth comment, right?

All non-Jewish women who gave the line of King David and of course King Jesus.


19 posted on 08/02/2021 3:35:15 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: AZJeep

A friend’s wife converted so they could immigrate to Israel. He was already an Israeli citizen and had returned to perform his military services, then moved back to the US. His wife’s conversion was a huge deal. Then, when they got there Israel refused to recognize the conversion because the rabbi had an out of wedlock affair. So the rabinate wanted it redone. She had to learn Hebrew and a the tenants of Jewdaism. The Chicago Rabi had to do something, i can’t recall what...but the process is extensive. America should do something similar with the people flooding in.


20 posted on 08/02/2021 3:45:53 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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