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Mass vaccination during pandemic historical blunder: Nobel laureate
https://telanganatoday.com/ ^ | 25th May 2021 | IANS

Posted on 07/30/2021 7:38:29 PM PDT by fr_freak

New Delhi: French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease, LifeSite News reported.

“It”s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation US.

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” the report said. Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ade; covid; covid19; covidbs; echochamber; everheardofmeasles; everheardofmumps; everheardofpolio; luc; lucmontagnier; massvaccination; montagnier; pandemic; vaccine; vaccines; variants
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A respected scientist gives his opinion about the wisdom of mass vaccination against COVID during the so-called pandemic.

I don't much about the publication, but it isn't my blog. In fact, it isn't a blog at all so the usual suspects can kiss my ass.

1 posted on 07/30/2021 7:38:29 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
Just because the globalist depopulation oligarchs want to force an experimental “vaccine” with an unprecedented number of catastrophic adverse reactions upon every human being on the planet to combat a weaponized virus they paid the Chinese Communist Party's Wuhan Lab to create and release into the wild does NOT mean anything nefarious is afoot.® 🤡
2 posted on 07/30/2021 7:40:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: fr_freak
a historical blunder that is “creating the variants”

First of all, that's not true. The Delta was created in unvaxed India in early Feb. Second, the variants are a good thing. We need more variants.

3 posted on 07/30/2021 7:40:55 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: fr_freak

Lockdowns, masking, and (anti)social distancing did nothing either.

Letting it burn out until herd immunity was and remains the only responsible course.

Everything else only prolongs the agony and fuels the fear.


4 posted on 07/30/2021 7:41:50 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: fr_freak

The virus changes. More contagious variants become more common.

Vaccines make some variants less contagious. Variants that can evade vaccines are more contagious among the vaccinated. Variants that evade vaccines become more common.


5 posted on 07/30/2021 7:42:15 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: fr_freak
“The history books will show that"

Well, they say that history is written by the victors, so it may take some time. But I think eventually people will see this time clearly for what it is. And the history books in 50 years or so are going to be very interesting indeed. Guess I won't be reading them.

6 posted on 07/30/2021 7:43:11 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: palmer
We need more variants.

Exactly.

Viruses mutate to become more infectious but less deadly.

OMG--cases are up in Pennsylvania.

But only EIGHT new deaths statewide.

7 posted on 07/30/2021 7:44:00 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: fr_freak

bookmark


8 posted on 07/30/2021 7:47:54 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: fr_freak

This reminds me of antibiotic resistance bacteria’s.


9 posted on 07/30/2021 7:49:06 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are living in 🤡🌎 that no one is paying attention to all that.


10 posted on 07/30/2021 7:50:41 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: palmer

Agree on the first part; that’s what all the evidence points to.

But the second part, I can’t disagree more. Each variant brings about the possibility of creating more problems. For example, Delta is resistant to antibodies against previous variants of SARS-CoV-2. The effect of this is both a decrease in the effectiveness of the vaccines we have an in the immunity of those previously infected. Now seeing about 1 in 6,000 who were previously infected with COVID-19 getting reinfected with Delta.

I would much prefer this be the last variant, we get a variant-specific vaccine out for it, everyone either gets vaccinated or infected once, virus runs out of hosts, virus dies. Just likes SARS2003 and MERS2012. I want the darn thing gone.


11 posted on 07/30/2021 7:54:31 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: fr_freak

Listen to the experts. But only government and big tech approved experts


12 posted on 07/30/2021 7:54:55 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: palmer

“First of all, that’s not true.” And, who are YOU? What are YOUR CREDENTIALS in this field?
Please publish them for us all to review. The man that originated studies into mRNA has issued warnings to not take these “vaccines” and that man has had his decades of research and study denigrated.
A victim of Cancel Culture.
These men and their credentials are an open book so, please tell us WHO are YOU? What are YOUR CREDENTIALS that you can tell such people they are wrong?
We look forward to your listing your real name and your background and accomplishments in this field of study.


13 posted on 07/30/2021 7:57:13 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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Not according to the vaxholes.


14 posted on 07/30/2021 8:04:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fr_freak

15 posted on 07/30/2021 8:10:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

From what I understand, it’s not a vax. It’s more of a treatment which reduces symptoms. Therefore, Covid continues to spread. And mutate.


16 posted on 07/30/2021 8:12:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Gene Eric

Can You say Self inflicted
“Black Plague?”


17 posted on 07/30/2021 8:13:09 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: ocrp1982
I simply post facts. If you don't agree with my facts, then post your facts.
18 posted on 07/30/2021 8:24:33 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: fr_freak

These are older interviews with the doctor:

ALERT: Luc Montagnier Did NOT Say Vaccine Would Kill People in Two Years - Here’s What he DID Say (Video) (May 25, 2021)

https://rairfoundation.com/alert-luc-montagnier-did-not-say-vaccine-would-kill-people-in-two-years-heres-what-he-did-say-video/
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Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is ‘Creating Variants’ (May 18, 2021)

https://rairfoundation.com/bombshell-nobel-prize-winner-reveals-covid-vaccine-is-creating-variants/

more (Jun 5, 2021): https://twitter.com/wakeupfromcovid/status/1401374212326100994

The full interview from @CoronaAusschuss with Pr. Luc Montagnier & Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg. (Jun 5, 2021)

https://twitter.com/wakeupfromcovid/status/1401374214909800452

Much better link
Ad-hoc 12 - Im Gespräch mit Prof. Dr. med. Luc Montagnier (June 5th, 2021)

https://odysee.com/@Corona-Ausschuss:3/Ad-hoc_12_final:d


19 posted on 07/30/2021 8:27:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

sfebruary 8 2021
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241536

.....But even so — perspective is important. We have learned how to treat this disease and in many cases how to prevent it from transmitting from one person to another using prophylaxis, not vaccines. If you are one of the people who is not going to get seriously hurt or killed from a public health perspective your infection is beneficial to the community as a whole.

The question of whether your vaccination is likewise beneficial is not known. We cannot say that it is identically beneficial as an infection because these vaccines are not mimicking natural infections; they intentionally target only part of the viral structure because attenuated vaccines are known to be unsafe with coronaviruses in that they revert and wind up causing disease — so to avoid that they intentionally didn’t use the entire virus. Instead they “engineered” an injection that causes your body to produce the spike (and only the spike) and then your immune system produces antibodies to that.

But — this means we do not know if you can get infected and emit the virus toward others after being vaccinated. We did not study it in the lab because challenge studies are generally not ethically permissible in humans, we did not do the animal trials and there has been insufficient data from infections and monitoring the population yet here we are jabbing people willy-nilly without knowing this critical fact.

These vaccines should have never been put into widespread use until and unless we knew if they produced sterilizing immunity as that should always be a gating requirement for widespread use of any vaccine. By using them widely, if they do not produce sterilizing immunity, we take the very real risk of promulgating a much more-lethal strain of Covid-19 that would otherwise fail to find traction statistically and thus harm very few before it is outcompeted instead spreading it worldwide, and for those who have had their immunity wane, who cannot be vaccinated due to immune or medical compromise (e.g. anyone undergoing cancer treatment which damages the immune system) or otherwise that strain will result in a massive amount of mortality......


20 posted on 07/30/2021 8:29:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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