Posted on 07/18/2021 7:02:57 AM PDT by karpov
There is a long and infamous history of world leaders marking humanity's "last chance" to avoid the ravages of man-made climate change.
In 1989, for instance, the director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program warned that rising sea levels would cause entire nations to disappear if the global-warming trend were not reversed by the year 2000. "Ecological refugees will become a major concern," he cautioned, "and what's worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn't have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?"
In 2007, the chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) gave the world just a few years to act: "If there's no action before 2012, that's too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment."
Two years later, Prince Charles warned that we had just 96 months to avert "irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse, and all that goes with it." "Our consumerist society comes at an enormous cost to the Earth," professed the man with multiple palaces, fleets of automobiles, a large and permanent entourage, endless opportunities for world travel, and all the other trappings of royalty. "We must face up to the fact that the Earth cannot afford to support it."
More recently, President Joe Biden echoed the existentialist concerns of his environmentalist predecessors in his inaugural address: "A cry for survival comes from the planet itself. A cry that can't be any more desperate or any more clear." This past April, while unveiling new climate-change legislation, the president reiterated the absolute imperative to act quickly and decisively to curb greenhouse-gas emissions:
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalaffairs.com ...
The greenhouse gas theory is all hot air.
The only thing that determines the temperature on earth is the source of all heat, THE SUN!
“You will own nothing and like it.”
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Simply posit these to the ‘climagddonists”:
1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.
2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.
3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.
4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.
5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.
6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.
7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.
We’ll wait.............
The only thing that determines the temperature on earth is the source of all heat, THE SUN!
‘’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
And God is in control of the sun, just like He is in control of everything else. I’m going to keep on trusting Him, that He knows exactly what He’s doing.
CO2 exists in our atmosphere as a trace gas in part per million levels. To maintain that the entire planet’s climate is driven primarily by part per million changes of a single trace gas is borders on absurdity. Certainly the sun whose output of heat energy to the earth varies has far more effect. The tilt of earths axis relative to the sun and causes our four seasons has a measurable wobble which can certainly effect climate. The theory that the greenhouse effect of variations in CO2 levels changes climate cannot explain the three ice ages where the entire northern hemisphere was covered by mile thick glaciers nor the ending of those ice ages. The theory cannot explain the Medieval warming period nor the so called little ice age from roughly 1300-1850. This is not to say that we should not look to cleaner energy options, but the climate alarmist are pushing us to rely on wind and solar technologies that are neither reliable nor environmentally neutral.
“You will own nothing and like it.”....OR ELSE!
If you own nothing, they you will shake in your boots more when the private company that owns the service threatens to take it away. Not because you can’t or won’t pay (that is soooooo 20th century), but because you have the wrong ideas.
My lord. Carbon dioxide is a minor influence and a good one at that
The Green movement is a communist effort to destroy wealth
The last actual climate change was 10,800 BC, with the extinction of the Mega Fauna and the onset of the Younger Dryas Event lasting 1000 years.
Thank you for reposting this.
I have seen it before but it is a really good list of questions. I would expand them a bit.
1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet. Given the wide fluctuations we know to have occurred.
2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet. Given that historically it has been both drier and wetter than the present day.
3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet. When we know that it has been tens of meters higher and lower even in the recent past.
4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet. And does the amount of precipitation change, or do weather patterns change simply moving the rain around?
5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere. Since we know the atmosphere in the past was much denser with both CO2 and O2. If we go far enough back there was almost no O2.
6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles. Since we know that even in historic times it was much less extensive.
7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans. Why is it better to have expanding glaiciers than shrinking glaciers?
We’ll wait.............
Apparently, “data” only matters if there are records kept. Anything before doesn’t count. 😱😂🙌
It’s long but I encourage everyone to read the whole article. Like a lot of issues the two sides gravitate to emotions and abandon logic. Here on FR we tend to side with the “hoax” or “Hot Air” view. That leaves the other side the freedom to claim “science” is on their side and it is settled. As this author says we and others of like mind need to use reason and science to point out that AGW is far from scientific fact and why, while at the same time showing that the costs involved will never be justified politically or economically.
We do.
while at the same time showing that the costs involved will never be justified politically or economically.
We have.
This is nothing new. Actual respected scientists inside the environmental movement have done all of these things and they have been ignored for decades because reality does not matter. Only the acquisition of power to the few matters.
Heck the people pushing climate change do not even believe it has is shown by their actions.
Does the author even understand that?
So what do you do at that point?
Realistically.
Suggested reading for you and author The wolf and the lamb in Aesop's Fables.
The author has bought into the need for a costly solution looking for a problem.
Definitions are HARD !!
Good going, Great RJ!
I always cheer when someone brings up the subject of the “Obliquity of the Ecliptic.” Yes, there are more factors than CO2, it is trace gas. Yes, the SUN is our heat engine as well is our Planet Earth.
I agree that there are responsible logical scientific responses but they are not heard or seen. The author is right that the Republican political position needs to bring them out rather than ducking the issue. What current leader has done so? Trump for his good positions treated it with disdain. AGW is not a hoax but an economic and political power grab...and it is working.
You bring it up even obliquely and you are labeled a climate denier and you vanish down the memory hole.
You can not bring forward things when there is a gag rule on all media outlets.
For the love of mike they are now engaged in book burning of actual science texts THAT THEY WROTE that do not agree with their current delusions.
As for Trump... might I remind you how he was censored? When he was president.
You and the author are blind to what is going on and you probably do not want to look at the solution because it is not a civil debate were both sides are allowed to talk and then the public decided.
Not the way thing are now.
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