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As California shakes, hospitals and Newsom seek delay for earthquake upgrades
LA Times ^

Posted on 07/10/2021 7:38:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Hospitals represented by the association argue that existing seismic standards are too costly, are in some ways unnecessary and that their industry needs more time to recover from massive financial losses during the pandemic.

In a letter to legislative leaders late last month, the association claimed that even with federal aid, California hospitals lost $8 billion in 2020 caring for COVID-19 patients and expect to lose another $2.2 billion this year.

Existing law requires that by 2030, every hospital building is capable of operating following an earthquake

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TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: cali; california; earthquake; gavinnewsom; hospitals; oshpd
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California hospitals lost $8 billion in 2020 caring for COVID-19 patients and expect to lose another $2.2 billion this year.

I have yet another dumb question: How is that possible?

1 posted on 07/10/2021 7:38:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Another Big One is coming.


2 posted on 07/10/2021 7:42:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“How is that possible””

Its not. It is simple accounting allocation like they did with the unemployment funds from the US, put them in the general fund and wow we have a budget surplus.


3 posted on 07/10/2021 7:43:10 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: BenLurkin

from 2019:

https://apnews.com/article/ee92215e72c04b41947d2be418a5c944

Costly
Effectiveness questionable


4 posted on 07/10/2021 7:48:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I have yet another dumb question: How is that possible?

If it is the same situation where we are at... our hospitals were basically empty or had just a fraction of the beds filled after the “pandemic” started. A lot of nurses and hospital staff were laid off. People were afraid to go to the hospital and put off “elective” medical procedures like cancer treatment, heart procedures, dialyses, and the like. They did not lose money “caring for COVID-19 patients” as the article states. They lost money because they did not have enough paying customers.

5 posted on 07/10/2021 7:52:40 AM PDT by fireman15
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For the really curious and interested, a 121-page RAND report on the issue:

https://calhospital.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/rand_rr3059.pdf


6 posted on 07/10/2021 8:01:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: BenLurkin

issue 1: keeping the people in a hospital safe from an earthquake
issue 2: keeping the hospital functional after an earthquake


7 posted on 07/10/2021 8:05:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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>>I have yet another dumb question: How is that possible?<<

Treating millions of illegals who are encouraged to come to Kali.


8 posted on 07/10/2021 8:06:45 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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To: Brian Griffin

California needs more hospital ships.


9 posted on 07/10/2021 8:11:10 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: BenLurkin

So much for “infrastructure” spending.....


10 posted on 07/10/2021 8:17:04 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: BenLurkin

I lived in So Calif when the Feb 1971 quake hit.

Newsome & Calif can pass all the laws they wish....

THEY DO NOT CONTROL MOTHER NATURE


11 posted on 07/10/2021 8:54:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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“How is that possible?”

They don’t want to say it, but, illegal aliens.


12 posted on 07/10/2021 8:59:16 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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> Existing law requires that by 2030, every hospital building is capable of operating following an earthquake

This cracks me up. Yeah, I get that they're talking about "little" earthquakes.

But do these "law makers" really think that God, who created stars capable of supernovae explosions, cannot cause the San Andreas or similar fault to open up and swallow the western half of California? Really?

Sure, try to operate your hospital when it's in pieces 250 feet down in a newly-opened crevasse filled with lava.

Humans are so arrogant. And California Democrats are the poster children for human arrogance.

13 posted on 07/10/2021 8:59:57 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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> Newsome & Calif can pass all the laws they wish.... THEY DO NOT CONTROL MOTHER NATURE

Yes, exactly (see my #13).

14 posted on 07/10/2021 9:00:53 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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Here in Socialist sh*thole NJ, my area had a brand new hospital and when scamdemic hit, it sat empty for the Covid patients who never came.


15 posted on 07/10/2021 9:02:48 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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It’s just another racket.


16 posted on 07/10/2021 10:34:42 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: fireman15

If it is the same situation where we are at... our hospitals were basically empty or had just a fraction of the beds filled after the “pandemic” started. A lot of nurses and hospital staff were laid off. People were afraid to go to the hospital and put off “elective” medical procedures like cancer treatment, heart procedures, dialyses, and the like. They did not lose money “caring for COVID-19 patients” as the article states. They lost money because they did not have enough paying customers.

You nailed it. My wife and I are prime examples:

I had a hammertoe (2nd toe on right foot) that needed to be removed as it was creating problems of balance and walking. The original scheduled loping was April after the crud hit. I finally got it down that fall. That led to less walking and getting out of shape.

My wife’s cataract replacement lenses needed to be laser blasted to clean off the collected crude. She finally got that done early this year in the outpatient clinic of the same POP, we use.

Her left hip is causing her a lot of pain. She finally got a cortisone shot in her L 3 area. That relief has worn off, She probably needs a hip replacement, when they start doing them again. Xrays were ordered before her procedure. So now we/she are probably in the waiting cycle.

Two relatives in the midwest had severe problems after not being able to see their doctors for their regular checkups.

Another relative, a male had a severe stroke in March and is doing okay now.

The other relative/a she developed Adult onset Leukemia.

That was diagnosed due to a good family IM listening to her complaining about shortness of breath and the standard blood tests were finally ordered showing the onset. She was close to a year behind her yearly visit and tests.

So, how many people are like the 4 of us re not being able to see our doctors during the pandemic with known problems and the unknown Leukemia onset.


17 posted on 07/10/2021 10:57:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (“Respond only to polite and intelligent posters! Who don’t insult you or us! Forget the others!”)
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To: ridesthemiles

If you lived in SoCal during the 1971 quake then you know why California has seismic standards for hospitals.

That’s because a wing of a brand new Kaiser hospital FELL OVER during that quake.


18 posted on 07/10/2021 11:35:14 AM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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I’m here in central California and right now we are playing catch up. Lots of people had “elective” procedures cancelled or postponed and now there’s a backlog.
When we restarted doing surgeries, only ambulatory procedures were scheduled, all admissions had to be approved by the head of surgery. Those were generally cancer cases. We started fast racking our fledgling same day discharge total joint replacement program. Yes, you read that right, total hip and knee replacements are being discharged same day. Of course, these are screened for appropriateness, and we do have to admit some who can’t pass pt or need pain control. But the number of major surgeries we are doing that are planned for same day discharge is increasing. We have only in the last month or so started to increase our planned surgery admissions approaching pregnancy covid volumes


19 posted on 07/10/2021 11:35:22 AM PDT by gracie1 (Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn’t mean you have to approve of it. )
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Hospitals represented by the association argue that existing seismic standards are too costly,

Didn't some HOA in Miami make the same argument a few years ago? I seem to have read something about that place a few weeks ago.

It's always too costly until the alternative happens. Feeling lucky?

20 posted on 07/10/2021 12:06:14 PM PDT by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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