Confederate Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson statues in Charlottesville officially removed

Fox News ^ | 10 July 2021 | Audrey Conklin

[Mr. Mojo]

The city of Charlottesville, Virginia, officially removed its statues of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee and Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson on Saturday.

Viewing areas for the removal of the statues were erected so that bystanders could watch cranes lift the statues from their plinth blocks; the process was nearly complete just before 9 a.m.

Photos and videos posted to social media show a crowd gathered to watch the process on Saturday morning.

Charlottesville Mayor Nikuyah Walker spoke at Saturday's gathering, calling the removal "one small step forward" in an effort to dismantle White supremacy, according to VPM reporter Ben Paviour.

Initial plans to remove the Lee statue came about in 2016, prompting White supremacists and other extremist groups to use the monument as a focal point for events such as the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally.

The statues will be held on Charlottesville property until they are sold, according to a Thursday press release from the city.

[central_va]

mythology that it was about "liberty" and "states rights."

Not a myth, fact. Lincoln said so himself.

[central_va]

I noticed the posters with screen names that contain “GOP” or “Republican” in them are usually the biggest pussies squishes here.

[Magnum44]

Virginians should be ashamed...

[wardaddy]

An exception would be Texascapitalistgop

A great poster....remember him

[wardaddy]

You’re doing good....I for one appreciate it

[thecodont]

Trying to erase history and the men who made it.

Absolutely right. This is Orwell's 1984.

Nikki Haley started it all, from what I understand.

[Bulwyf]

Haley did?

Wow, she’s fallen a long ways or more likely she was always this way just under the surface.

[DoodleDawg]

Next target: the Founding Fathers.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[DoodleDawg]

They never elude to the fact that the Statue of General Lee was erected prior to the Civil War!

Say what?

[DoodleDawg]

Lincoln stated the goal of the war was not about slavery at all. He made that very clear.

He wasn't speaking for the Confederacy.

[TimSkalaBim]

Of course, the people removing those statues are putting themselves in a position to accuse you of sedition by posting on a treasonous platform, when they decide the time is right.

It's been said before and I really hope it sinks in with you: our fight is not over North/South in the long-ago civil war, it is here and now between freedom and totalitarianism, the erasement of our common knowledge, which these history-erasers have planned for you. I hope you come to realize that.

[babble-on]

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

Or as Levon Helm might have sung in Charlottesville had he been there last week, “Virgil, quick, come see,
There goes Robert E. Lee!”

[BroJoeK]

Pelham to TwelveOfTwenty: "The Confederacy didn't have any political parties.
Its officials were a mix of former Democrats and Whigs, including one of the four Whig US Presidents...
...The Civil War wasn't "a Democrat temper tantrum" despite the firm belief of the illiterate."

Secession & war were driven by Democrat Fire Eaters -- Yancey, Wigfall, Rhett, De Bow, Keitt, Pryor, Pickens, etc., etc.
In 1860 they first split their majority Democrat party, South vs. North, to guarantee minority Republican victory, and then used Republican victory to justify secession.
Once secession was accomplished, Fire Eaters lead the charge to convince Jefferson Davis to start Civil War at Fort Sumter:

"There are the words of Virginian [Fire Eater] Roger Pryor, who, speaking to a Charleston audience on April 10, 1861, said, 'But I assure you that just as certain as tomorrow's sun will rise upon us, just so certain will Virginia be a member of the Southern Confederacy; and I will tell your Governor what will put her in the Southern Confederacy in less than an hour by Shrewsbury clock. Strike a blow!"
[W. A. Swanberg, _First Blood: The Story of Fort Sumter,_ p. 289]

"That same day, [Jefferson] Davis received a telegram from [Fire Eater] Louis T. Wigfall, urging, 'General Beauregard will not act without your order.
Let me suggest to you to send the order to him to begin the attack as soon as he is ready.
Virginia is excited by the preparations, and a bold stroke on our side will complete her purposes.
Policy and prudence are urgent upon us to begin at once.' "
[Wigfall to Davis, 10 Apr 1861, quoted in Richard N. Current, _Lincoln and the First Shot,_ p. 151]

Jefferson Davis was a Democrat, as were his cabinet secretaries:

1. Leroy Walker -- 1st Secretary of War
2. Judah Benjamin -- 2nd Secretary of War
3. Stephen Mallory -- Secretary of the Navy
4. Christopher Memminger -- Secretary of Treasury
5. John Reagan -- Postmaster General
6. Robert Toombs -- 2nd Secretary of State
7. Robert Hunter -- 2nd Secretary of State

All Democrats.
Only VP Alexander Stephens was not a Democrat before 1861, but he was a Democrat from 1861 until his death in 1883.

TwelveOfTwenty: "The confederacy was a democrat temper tantrum."

That is a totally accurate statement, and Pelham's suggestions otherwise are just Democrat propaganda lies.

[x]

"The Confederacy didn't have any political parties. Its officials were a mix of former Democrats and Whigs, including one of the four Whig US Presidents...

John Tyler, who died in 1862, wasn't a true Whig. He was a Democrat who broke with the party over factional differences. He thought Andrew Jackson too high-handed and autocratic. Tyler thought that Jackson used extraconstitutional actions against the national bank, but he also didn't like Jackson's firm stance against South Carolina's nullifiers. As president, Tyler governed more as a Democrat than as a Whig, and most of the cabinet he inherited from Harrison resigned early on. Alexander Stephens had been a Whig and a friend of Abraham Lincoln, but Tyler was a Democrat at heart and committed to slavery and the Democrat's idea of state's rights.

[Pelham]

Simple history for simpletons.

[Pelham]

I like how you decide who “wasn’t a true Whig” or “was a Democrat at heart”. Clears up any untidy rubble that might interfere with the authorized version. I expect History By Seance to arrive soon, to better confirm those judgments.

[x]

The Whigs expelled Tyler after he vetoed too many of their bills, and they tried to impeach him. He wanted to go back to the Democrats, but they didn’t want him either.

[BroJoeK]

Pelham: "Simple history for simpletons."

No, accurate history for those who care about the truth.
Whenever you defend Democrats, you're defending a pack of lies, FRiend.

[redcatcherb412]

found this graphic amusing