Pelham to TwelveOfTwenty:
"The Confederacy didn't have any political parties.
Its officials were a mix of former Democrats and Whigs, including one of the four Whig US Presidents...
...The Civil War wasn't "a Democrat temper tantrum" despite the firm belief of the illiterate." Secession & war were driven by Democrat Fire Eaters -- Yancey, Wigfall, Rhett, De Bow, Keitt, Pryor, Pickens, etc., etc.
In 1860 they first split their majority Democrat party, South vs. North, to guarantee minority Republican victory, and then used Republican victory to justify secession.
Once secession was accomplished, Fire Eaters lead the charge to convince Jefferson Davis to start Civil War at Fort Sumter:
"There are the words of Virginian [Fire Eater] Roger Pryor, who, speaking to a Charleston audience on April 10, 1861, said, 'But I assure you that just as certain as tomorrow's sun will rise upon us, just so certain will Virginia be a member of the Southern Confederacy; and I will tell your Governor what will put her in the Southern Confederacy in less than an hour by Shrewsbury clock. Strike a blow!"
[W. A. Swanberg, _First Blood: The Story of Fort Sumter,_ p. 289]
"That same day, [Jefferson] Davis received a telegram from [Fire Eater] Louis T. Wigfall, urging, 'General Beauregard will not act without your order.
Let me suggest to you to send the order to him to begin the attack as soon as he is ready.
Virginia is excited by the preparations, and a bold stroke on our side will complete her purposes.
Policy and prudence are urgent upon us to begin at once.' "
[Wigfall to Davis, 10 Apr 1861, quoted in Richard N. Current, _Lincoln and the First Shot,_ p. 151]
Jefferson Davis was a Democrat, as were his cabinet secretaries:
- Leroy Walker -- 1st Secretary of War
- Judah Benjamin -- 2nd Secretary of War
- Stephen Mallory -- Secretary of the Navy
- Christopher Memminger -- Secretary of Treasury
- John Reagan -- Postmaster General
- Robert Toombs -- 2nd Secretary of State
- Robert Hunter -- 2nd Secretary of State
All Democrats.
Only VP Alexander Stephens was not a Democrat before 1861, but he was a Democrat from 1861 until his death in 1883.
TwelveOfTwenty: "The confederacy was a democrat temper tantrum."
That is a totally accurate statement, and Pelham's suggestions otherwise are just Democrat propaganda lies. ![]()
"The Confederacy didn't have any political parties. Its officials were a mix of former Democrats and Whigs, including one of the four Whig US Presidents...John Tyler, who died in 1862, wasn't a true Whig. He was a Democrat who broke with the party over factional differences. He thought Andrew Jackson too high-handed and autocratic. Tyler thought that Jackson used extraconstitutional actions against the national bank, but he also didn't like Jackson's firm stance against South Carolina's nullifiers. As president, Tyler governed more as a Democrat than as a Whig, and most of the cabinet he inherited from Harrison resigned early on. Alexander Stephens had been a Whig and a friend of Abraham Lincoln, but Tyler was a Democrat at heart and committed to slavery and the Democrat's idea of state's rights.