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Hero Who Shot Colorado Gunman Shot Dead by Police in Case of Mistaken Identity
New York Post ^ | June 26, 2021 | Jesse O’Neill

Posted on 06/26/2021 2:50:00 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Born to Conserve

Truth.

Zero attempt to ever assess situations.


61 posted on 06/26/2021 10:31:22 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I’m running that far! )
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To: Openurmind

Yep, AZ has got it right.


62 posted on 06/26/2021 10:34:48 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

This is almost certainly a case of the cop not giving the guy a chance to surrender the rifle.

I witnessed a police shooting from my office window years ago. Cops yelled “put the gun down” while their drew their weapons. The guy hadn’t dropped it by the time they leveled their sights so they shot him. It was that bang, bang, bang. It looked like a Hollywood movie with brass flying everywhere.


63 posted on 06/26/2021 10:36:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Openurmind

“ Even the military rules of engagement during conflict are more sane and logical than the current rules of engagement being practiced against CITIZENS by law enforcement.”

Nailed it, the above is the litmus test I apply to all officer involved shootings. Simply replace the officer with one of our servicemen, and the citizen with a citizen in the nation where we are deployed.

Quite simply, our police officers must be held to a higher standard for use of deadly force than our troops abroad.


64 posted on 06/26/2021 10:39:16 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: caww

No order?

My days are full order without a cop in sight.

Back off on the hyperbole.


65 posted on 06/26/2021 10:40:05 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I’m running that far! )
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To: Noamie

Bless you.


66 posted on 06/26/2021 10:43:13 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I’m running that far! )
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To: lodi90

That is a damn shame. Police officers need to endure a heightened level of risk, as their dealings are with American citizens. Those that cannot, must resign.


67 posted on 06/26/2021 10:44:49 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: wardaddy

This caww is something else man. Total traitor to the conservative movement.
He mentioned that he doesn’t “neighbor” with anyone. Unbeknownst to him, he’s doing the country a favor.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, he will sell out any Patriot for a few pieces of silver.


68 posted on 06/26/2021 10:45:17 AM PDT by jntrees
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To: dsc

Cops are civilians.


69 posted on 06/26/2021 10:46:15 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I’m running that far! )
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To: walkingdead

Wishing for the riots in the streets to start /s


70 posted on 06/26/2021 10:49:13 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Wishing = waiting. OOPS


71 posted on 06/26/2021 10:49:41 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: No_Mas_Obama

We live in a society which (on average) is ever more educated yet also dumber.


Educational institutions that people call private receive a lot of government funds. Government funding reduce the quality of education.


72 posted on 06/26/2021 10:58:00 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Openurmind; dsc; caww
Thank you - I have always respected the duties of the police and the dedication and bravery many have have exhibited in their careers, but today there are far too many police departments accepting marginal people as police officers and too many training syllabi teaching them that their survival is paramount.

Nobody joins the Marines in wartime thinking of their retirement package - they know that they have a dangerous duty to perform and they'll do it, even if it means that tomorrow will never come for them. Think policing is dangerous? Try 400 dead Marines in the 1st Marine Division alone in one week in August 1966.

Policing today is all about arrests, maintaining control of your subjects, and the power of life or death. They have lost any connection or sense of responsibility to the people they are supposedly protecting.

A couple of years ago, my daughter was chased by an attempted kidnapper in the store we were in together. I confronted him and after a smirking "don't make a big deal of it" from him, he ran out of the store. I called the police and the responding officer was obviously annoyed to have been called into the case and interrogated my 13 year old - and very shook up - girl aggressively, as if she were just making everything up. After he was done, I contacted the Chief of Police to complain - but nothing ever happened and that guy is still at large. Remember Columbine? All those impressively armed and equipped cops just stood outside the building and waited until the gunmen were finished killing kids. Real police, police from back when cops took risks for their people, would have gone straight in and fought - but things have changed.

73 posted on 06/26/2021 11:26:55 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: A Navy Vet

At best, he should have kicked the AR-15 out of the way and not touched it. Why get your fingerprints on it at all? (Of course, this assumes that the shooting cop is telling the truth about the citizen holding the bad guy’s AR-15.)


74 posted on 06/26/2021 11:40:25 AM PDT by Rybashka
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To: walkingdead

Our “Civil Servants” are given far too much personal “at the officer’s discretion” without fault or accountability than our troops in a war zone are.


75 posted on 06/26/2021 11:57:25 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Chainmail

I get it, I have been there too, and have a whole lot of accounts about interactions of my own.


76 posted on 06/26/2021 12:00:16 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Rybashka

Even better.


77 posted on 06/26/2021 12:21:54 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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To: equaviator
so the cop is theoretically “qualified” but is supposed to be held to a higher or the highest standard.

What planet are you living on? An action taken by a regular citizen that would get their lives ruined by both the police and the legal system, is completely excused by those wearing the magical blue suit due to 'qualified immunity'.

78 posted on 06/26/2021 12:25:38 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: dsc
Things are unsettled. Hell, things are downright weird. The numbers of LEOs being murdered is insane.

I'm sure you'll let us know when they finally make it on to the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the nation, if that ever happens.

79 posted on 06/26/2021 12:31:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: caww
No civilian should be “taking it upon themselves” to interfer in a police officials capacity to pursue, arrest or engage in an active and onging event.

Are you actually standing there with your teeth in your mouth and your face hanging out, and saying that the guy who stopped the shooter was WRONG to do so???!?

80 posted on 06/26/2021 12:38:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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