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Michigan Republicans eviscerate Trump voter fraud claims in scathing report
nbcnews.com ^ | June 23, 2021 | Allan Smith

Posted on 06/23/2021 10:43:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Berlin_Freeper

There is no way Peters beat James without Voter Fraud. Or should I call it “Fortifying the Election”.


41 posted on 06/24/2021 4:39:37 AM PDT by griswold3 (NBA/ Plumlee Ball. = poor entertainment value while insulting the audience gets you broke )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Just recalling the evil doings in the Detroit counting room tells us this is a very suspect report.


42 posted on 06/24/2021 4:42:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Isn’t that where they put card board over the windows. Let’s audit those ballots. I guess now because of that report no judge will allow it. Why not, if there is nothing to hide.


43 posted on 06/24/2021 4:42:06 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Just forget Antrim county. 😏


44 posted on 06/24/2021 5:07:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Complicit traitor Republican liars who want to keep Trump out of the WH fearing he will have them all prosecuted


45 posted on 06/24/2021 5:31:16 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Is there anyone out there who can rebut the report in detail — rather than just vent about it?


46 posted on 06/24/2021 5:32:10 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam, )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This is coming out before an AZ style audit lands on their doorstep.


47 posted on 06/24/2021 5:33:27 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It would appear that you have touched a nerve.
The bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN’Ts in michigan need to be defeated.
They are in bed with whitler and all her cronies, and are actively supporting both her and the republiCAN’Ts here in the state.

We see you.
Thank you President Trump!!
Not only have we been able to identify those that wish to deceive us, they are not self identifying.

We see you


48 posted on 06/24/2021 5:44:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So the GOP-E pushed papers for 8 months and then brought out a self serving report based on no actual investigation.


49 posted on 06/24/2021 5:50:53 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
no basis or evidence to support the Trump campaign's repeated claims that the election results failed to reflect the will of the voters

That's very, very important language for all you French Revolution fans.

The theory that simple arithmetical computation of votes could be invalid if it did not reflect "the will of the voters" was an important element of the original Gore/Lieberman pleadings in Florida 2000, and it has become more important - much more, in fact, in Democratic Party and affiliated organizations ideology since then.

Keep an eye on "the will of the voters" being more important than some stupid arithmetical process, because you are going to see it more and more.

50 posted on 06/24/2021 5:56:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport_2.pdf


I’m only reading it in spurts. So far, some claims reasonably dismissed. Some serious problems in the way the election was run, and vulnerabilities found. Some specious refutations based on trivial sampling. Acknowledgement that the review wasn’t by any means comprehensive, and re-engagement may occur depending upon Arizona audit.


51 posted on 06/24/2021 6:35:52 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: pacificus
Why post this fake news click-bait?

Don't you want to know what our enemy is up to?

52 posted on 06/24/2021 6:40:30 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC )
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“Additionally, the mailing of unsolicited applications allows for two other related vulnerabilities. Applications sent to the former Michigan addresses of those moved out of state and applications sent to the new addresses of former Michigan citizens now registered to vote in another state constitute a real and virtually undetectable potential for fraudulent activity. The Chair’s research into this topic, as well as a review of testimony provided by the secretary of state’s director of elections to the Senate Elections Committee in October 2020, make it clear that there is essentially no mechanism in place to prevent counting votes from those who may be also registered and vote in another state, whether done by themselves or the recipient of an application at their former Michigan address. As there are no efficient or established procedures to confirm or detect this, it is not possible for the Committee to report on any occurrences or to have confidence no such actions occurred. However, with mass mailings of absentee ballot applications being mailed across state lines to many who no longer reside or vote in Michigan and to thousands of former addresses in Michigan, the situation must be addressed to ensure that those individuals are voting only once in an election, are doing so only in the state of their residence, and that no one is impersonating them at their old address. “


53 posted on 06/24/2021 6:42:15 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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"The Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) obtained access to the Antrim County voting tabulators and purported to perform a forensic audit. (ASOG and its co-founder were purveyors of the “fractional vote” and “more votes than registered voters” theories2). ASOG’s audit described stolen computer files, machines designed to provide incorrect results, manipulated software, and cyber-attacks. Utilizing the difference between the unofficial vote count and the final, official count, ASOG claimed the machines were inaccurate 68% of the time. However, ASOG never provided an explanation for how the official vote was accurately obtained on the tabulator slips in the same physical count as the incorrect unofficial results on which they focus. ASOG did not make any attempt to invalidate the claims of the clerk by demonstration. ASOG also claimed a loss of files regarding auto-adjudication, a method of curing absentee voter ballots that Antrim County does not utilize as further evidence of fraudulent activity. ASOG claimed the machines had “ranked-choice” balloting turned on when this is not possible on Michigan machines. Other entities (CyberNinjas and Halderman) showed this claim was untrue. ASOG ignored that the simple and most effective way to verify the results is to simply count all ballots by hand. Even after a hand recount verified the results in Antrim County, ASOG refused to retract its assertions."
54 posted on 06/24/2021 7:00:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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“It is true that every tabulator was connected to a local area network (LAN), which would create the same icon on a computer screen indicating a network connection as is shown by an internet accessible network. This may be a source of some of the confusion. Computers at the central control center, which were not connected to each precinct’s LAN, were connected to a network that was connected to the internet, which may have also contributed to the confusion.”


Yes. Yes it would, especially with the unqualified outright denial of there being such connections at the counting centers.


55 posted on 06/24/2021 7:18:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“The Committee did learn during testimony that Wayne County’s Board of Canvassers operates differently than most other counties, shifting the actual canvass responsibilities to the county clerk and their staff. Once the canvass is complete, the board receives a report, that is unusually anemic in its details of how imbalances were rectified.”


56 posted on 06/24/2021 7:31:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

The Committee was made aware of claims that election workers at the TCF Center in downtown Detroit were instructed to not match signatures on envelopes and furthermore were instructed to “pre-date” the received date of absentee ballots. To the contrary, these processing steps — signature matching and verification of the date received — occurred at another location and were completed by other employees prior to the time the ballots were sent to the TCF Center for counting. Workers at the AVCBs are to check for the clerk’s signature and time stamp as well as making sure the voter signature is present. However, the validation of the voter signature by the clerk’s office is indicated by the clerk’s signature and stamp. As for the “pre-dating” allegation, Detroit Senior Election Advisor Chris Thomas explained this date field is necessary for processing the ballot. Without the voter present, there is no way to have that date, which was recorded into the QVF by the official who took the same day registration at another location. Since the poll books at the AVCB are not connected to the QVF during Election Day, there is no way to check what was entered at the site where the voter registered. Therefore, a “placeholder” date is entered, and the poll worker assumes the official accepting the registration did their due diligence.”


57 posted on 06/24/2021 7:34:47 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Here’s an example both of direct violation of law by SoS Benson, and the demonstration that there’s an open in the verification system, in multiple areas:

“Kent County Clerk Lisa Lyons, and Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, both testified regarding the possible requirement of a “real time” signature when applying for an absentee ballot, indicating it would be highly preferred rather than performing the application process online. In addition to the preferences of election officials, the Michigan Court of Claims struck down Secretary of State Benson’s guidance on signature matching, which required workers to presume the validity of signatures, ruling that the required presumption of validity is found nowhere in state law and mandating such was a direct violation of the Administrative Procedures Act.

After reviewing these facts and receiving the testimony of experts and clerks, it is abundantly clear that the signature verification process is one of significant importance. With new policies in place due to the adoption of Proposal 18-3, current election procedures do not require a new voter to, potentially, ever make face-to-face contact with an election official or staff throughout the process of registration, requesting an absentee ballot application, or completing and submitting their ballot. Therefore, requiring a voter to confirm their identity at some point during the process is imperative. Whether providing a “real time” signature, a government-issued photo identification card, or other unique personally identifying information, like a driver’s license number or a state identification number, requesting that a voter provide one of these easily-accessible identifiers will go a long way to strengthen the integrity of our system, while supporting the new, more efficient way of administering our elections.

Therefore, the Committee recommends that the secretary of state begin the process of establishing actual rules for examining and validating signatures consistent with a ruling of the Michigan Court of Claims. The Committee also recommends that statewide measures be put in place to ensure eligible voters are not unreasonably denied access to vote if there is an issue with their signature. Finally, the Committee recommends that reasonable measures be put in place to ensure voters can easily and properly identify themselves when exercising their right to vote.”


58 posted on 06/24/2021 7:39:08 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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8. Jurisdictions Reporting More Than 100% Voter Turnout
The Committee received and heard claims that jurisdictions had more than 100% of registered voters voting. Here are some of the local municipalities that had claims of a higher voter turnout than there were actual registered voters:


Regardless of the actual numbers, it is clear from Michigan, as well as other states, that there is both a huge surge in registrations very late in the process (which tends to make validation questionable), as well as a laxity by the states in updating their numbers - so the numbers are very opaque. The committee did not address those aspects there at all.


59 posted on 06/24/2021 7:44:33 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Liars lie. What is one more lie to a liar? Words are cheap now and mean nothing. Bring back dueling and maybe a man’s word will mean something again. “I I give you my word” That phrase at one time meant something. Now it is about as useful as a used rubber.


60 posted on 06/24/2021 7:49:52 AM PDT by sport
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