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Michigan Republicans eviscerate Trump voter fraud claims in scathing report
nbcnews.com ^ | June 23, 2021 | Allan Smith

Posted on 06/23/2021 10:43:16 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: lepton

Section 10 advises that they found no *proof* of fraud in late night drop offs at TCF center, but acknowledges chain of custody was effectively broken and new procedures need to be created to assure there is no misbehavior.

The explanation is at least partially correct, but there is no way to distinguish between 10% and 100% explained.


61 posted on 06/24/2021 7:54:09 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“Ballot Box Construction
Testimony was heard from Monica Palmer regarding the roll of boards of canvassers in verifying the construction of ballot boxes. Her board made significant efforts to require repairing or replacing poorly constructed boxes. This effort is commendable and ought to be extended to the construction of drop boxes, as well. Testimony was also shared that boxes disallowed by the Wayne County Board of Canvassers and labeled to not be used were still being used on Election Day. This is not acceptable, and the Committee asks the secretary of state or the attorney general to investigate who is responsible for this serious breach.”


62 posted on 06/24/2021 8:07:05 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So, what I am reading, so far, is that there are some extreme allegations which are shown to be not plausible, some situations where reasonable people could be confused by what it going on due to poor processes or crossed purposes, and that there are a wide number of areas which there is a pretty severe loss of control such that allegations cannot even be evaluated or wrongdoing in the area can’t be expected to be detected.


63 posted on 06/24/2021 8:11:32 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

oh, and there are still a number of outstanding investigations, and this isn’t really a final report.


64 posted on 06/24/2021 8:13:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“One witness testified that none of the military ballots at her table being duplicated were for President Trump. However, upon questioning, the witness recounted she only witnessed a few dozen ballots. This is a very reasonable outcome given the overall performance of the candidates in these precincts and the amount witnessed, which is not statistically significant.”

less than 1:36? Even in Detroit, not likely. Dubious conclusion.


65 posted on 06/24/2021 8:56:26 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“Many of the reports and allegations of illegal votes or fraudulent votes conflate issues of illegal or improper process with fraud or illegal votes. Many of these claims ignore the specific and legally required partisan makeup of the election workers and immediately assume that illegally removing watchers and challengers means fraud is occurring and that all ballots should be disqualified.

“Not only would this disenfranchise thousands of legitimate voters by no fault of their own,...”

There is an issue with disenfranchising voters who have properly voted, based upon misbehavior of the election workers - that said, there is a distinct lack of consequences when the election workers play chicken with the election as they clearly did in several states.


66 posted on 06/24/2021 9:06:53 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“The Committee recommends providing live video feed and recordings of the audit procedures.
The public should have access to view the audit in person when possible and results should be posted online. The Committee also recommends that the Legislature fulfill the commitment of Proposal 2018-3 to guarantee an audit upon request of any elector.”


67 posted on 06/24/2021 9:08:35 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Socon-Econ

I’ve made a few comments of my own up-thread, but there is a lot there to go through. There are some reasonable explanations, and some dubious conclusions. Lots of loss of control issues noted - some pretty severe - as well as a consistent lack of definition allowing gaming requirements and lack of consequences for clear misbehavior and violation of law.

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/20210623/SMPO_2020ElectionReport_2.pdf

V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONCLUSION
Recommendations
§ Place in statute the rights and duties of challengers and poll watchers, requiring they be uniformly trained and held accountable.

§ Ensuring combined AVCBs can have more than one challenger per party, with the ability to replace challengers who exit the AVCB location after the sequester is lifted.

§ Allow for bipartisan election inspectors for all audits and require the process be open to the public.

§ Prohibit the unsolicited mailing of absentee voter ballot applications from the secretary of state to limit the potential for non-Michigan residents voting in elections.

§ Establish signature verification requirements via the administrative rules process or statute in order to provide clarity and uniformity to election workers on the proper way to ensure signatures match.

§ Require video security on all drop boxes and require all drop boxes be emptied and secured immediately or earlier than 8 p.m. on Election Day to help expedite the processing and tabulation of ballots.

§ In order to ensure more accurate voter rolls, allow county clerks greater authority when removing deceased individuals from the Qualified Voter File.

§ Allow for the continued pre-processing of absentee ballots the day before Election Day, so long as stringent security measures are kept in place. Pre-processing must occur on the site of tabulation.

§ Consider allowing tabulation, which is more secure, to begin in the week preceding Election Day as long as results may not be released until polls are closed on the completion of Election Day.

§ Require that best practices for maintaining a balanced precinct on Election Day be part of the necessary training for all precinct workers. Establish a public, published record of all clerks who fail to provide the appropriate training or continuing education to themselves or their employees.

§ Reform the canvassing processes by requiring canvassers be present during the canvass activities, expanding certain county boards where population requires it, and provide for additional time for the process to be completed.


68 posted on 06/24/2021 9:16:15 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“You are required to be an adult by posting your opinions on the article and not your crazy rants about me.”

You are required to be an adult and be accountable for your anti-Trump posts.

Don’t use FR to help the Left spread its propaganda - under the guise of “discussion”.


69 posted on 06/24/2021 9:30:40 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated
You are required to be an adult and be accountable for your anti-Trump posts.

Don’t use FR to help the Left spread its propaganda - under the guise of “discussion”.

This is a major news story. Feel free to join the grown-ups in discussing your opinions about it.
70 posted on 06/24/2021 11:05:52 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: lepton

None of the changes will help Trump from the past but could be crucial to him in the future.


71 posted on 06/24/2021 11:14:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: enumerated
Let me help you get started discussing....
The report, which was supported by every Republican on the committee, was clear: "This Committee found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud in Michigan’s prosecution of the 2020 election."
How about that?
72 posted on 06/24/2021 11:18:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The report, which was supported by every Republican on the [four-person] committee, was clear: “This Committee found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud in Michigan’s prosecution of the 2020 election.”

They also found some of the claimants, such as the attorney reporting in Antrim, to be unsupportable.

They did, however find a number of illegal actions blocking any semblance of transparency, pretty substantial poor behavior which if fraud did occur would not allow fraud to be detected, as well as a lack of penalties in current law.


73 posted on 06/25/2021 5:22:57 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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