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Skynet Went Live June 8! Attn: Alexa Echo and Ring Owners [Amazon Sidewalk Network]
Bob Braxman Tech via YouTube ^ | June 10, 2021 | Bob Braxman Tech

Posted on 06/11/2021 5:46:26 PM PDT by Fitzy_888

Video at link.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amazon; amazonsidewalk; bigtech; cloud; echo; palantir; skynet
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To: MayflowerMadam; Mr. K

A few years ago a high school friend and I had a discussion on our IPhones about a guy we knew in high school. We were speculating about whether this guy was on FaceBook. The next time I went on FB, the guy was in the line of ‘people you may know’ on my Timeline. It is really scary how much data is being collected about EVERYONE. And yeah, I know I shouldn’t be on FaceBook but it is a quick connection to relatives in other countries.


21 posted on 06/12/2021 4:08:13 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Fitzy_888; usconservative; FreedomPoster; null and void

I’ve heard of the ads popping up when you discuss a topic near your phone or computer. While scary, it’s relatively harmless.

THIS one, however, was scary as f***.

My fitness watch, yesterday, informed me that payday was tomorrow.

What the actual f***.

The only way it could know that — it is linked to my phone — is if it screen scraped my phone banking.

The monitoring we are undergoing is at China-levels.


22 posted on 06/12/2021 4:12:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Heck; even good, ol’ FR keeps a record of everything I type here.

(Although I’m not sure about the replies that get pulled.)


23 posted on 06/12/2021 4:27:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MayflowerMadam; Mr. K
“I swear something is listening to me. And I don’t have Amazon or Alexa. Maybe it’s my phone.”

HMMMmmm...



"The telescreen recieved and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard.
 
There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment.
How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.
It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
 
You had to live - did live, from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.

 

-1984, Book 1, Chapter One, George Orwell
24 posted on 06/12/2021 4:31:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=screen+scrape+technology&ia=web
 
 

25 posted on 06/12/2021 4:36:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fitzy_888

Alexa, echo, ring, home “security” tech., etc. is ALL EVIL!!!


26 posted on 06/12/2021 4:38:39 AM PDT by Bill of Rights FIRST (If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: qaz123

That is BS they tell people to placate them.

They DO and WILL access ALL your tech., electronics, etc. anytime or ALL the time 24/7 no matter what you say or do.


27 posted on 06/12/2021 4:41:44 AM PDT by Bill of Rights FIRST (If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Elsie

when driving to my doctor, I have to tightly grip the steering wheel to be sure the van doesn’t take the exit on to the interstate


28 posted on 06/12/2021 4:47:40 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: Fitzy_888
We thought he was kidding:


29 posted on 06/12/2021 4:53:21 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Fitzy_888
It's easy enough to disable it.

Either turn Sidewalk off in the app or unplug the damn' things. Both methods work.

30 posted on 06/12/2021 4:54:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: webheart

When the ‘voice’ at self-checkout starts playing instructions to my wife, I sneer in a loud voice ‘Shut up, Alexa!’...most patrons in the vicinity smile or LOL.


31 posted on 06/12/2021 4:56:22 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Lazamataz
The only way it could know that — it is linked to my phone — is if it screen scraped my phone banking.

As I told you yesterday and I'll repeat here for EVERYONE who actually reads these threads, never, ever, EVER use your "smartphone" for information / privacy sensitive tasks such as online banking.

You're just begging for trouble if you do.

Use a purpose built machine, whether physical or virtual, for financial transactions only and keep it powered off when not in use for that specific task.

I have an Ubuntu Linux VM with a hardened kernel that I use to manage my finances. It gets powered on only when I need to use it to manage my finances and then gets powered back down. Because it's virtual it's logically isolated from all the other compute resources on my home network.

As for my "smartphone" I use it for the following tasks only:

- Phone calls (Yes, I still make them once in awhile)
- SMS messaging
- Streaming music to my car stereo
- Taking photo's (which I do NOT replicate to the Cloud)
- Weekly grocery list

I also only keep those apps on it that I use, I delete everything else, I keep location services OFF and I do not allow my phone to sync with my computer automatically. When I transfer pictures I use a USB3 cable and copy them down, then immediately disconnect the phone.

Some of you may call me paranoid however I NEVER have an ad pop up on any of my devices for things I talk about. So there's that. :-)

32 posted on 06/12/2021 5:05:59 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative; Lazamataz
One last comment: Every ISP in the country including Comcast where I live, has in their AUP that you and I will not allow third parties to access our Internet Service.

Amazon Sidewalk is a third-party. How is this NOT a violation of the AUP we all have with our ISP's?

I'm no lawyer however if I was I'd be seriously thinking about a mass, class-action lawsuit against Amazon.

33 posted on 06/12/2021 5:12:13 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: webheart
I guess I am grumpy. I don’t use self checkout because it is always telling me what to do. Other people like being told to put the item in the bagging area. Not me. I would rather talk to a rude cashier than have a machine tell me what to do. Same as I absolutely will not try to converse with one of those phone answering systems. I’m sorry I didn’t understand that.

I can relate. Oh, and get off my lawn!

34 posted on 06/12/2021 5:14:01 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mr. K
"But I was just discussing something the other day and sure enough I started seeing commercials for it."

That first happened to me a few years back. I had a friend over to grill some steaks and I was telling him about some thoughts I had for a fence to section off sections of my yard.

That evening I got online and ads started popping up from Home Depot with "fencing solutions."

It creeped me out, and still does.

35 posted on 06/12/2021 5:17:19 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Fitzy_888
900 ghz radio capability in Echo and Ring was added two years

NO. As a 34-year veteran RF design engineer, I can tell you that there is NO COMMERCIAL 900 GHz radio. NONE. Anyone telling you that is a LIAR.

36 posted on 06/12/2021 5:36:01 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
According to CNET Amazon is using part of the Amateur Radio 900mhz spectrum for it's "Sidewalk" capability.

I'm a HAM though I don't have 900mhz capabilities to test if this is true or not. If it's true however, I'm shocked (not) the ARRL hasn't launched a lawsuit or protests to stop this.

From the CNET Article:

Amazon Sidewalk taps the 900MHz band of the radio spectrum -- typically used for amateur radio -- to extend the distance at which you can control your smart home devices, Dave Limp, senior vice president of devices and services said during the event. This could have a lot of implications for smart gardens, outdoor lights and mailbox sensors.

You're 100% correct there's no Commercial 900ghz radio frequency, I suspect the original poster had no idea what they were talking about.

There is however a 900mhz spectrum allocation in the Amateur Radio Service that Amazon is infringing upon if this article is accurate.

37 posted on 06/12/2021 5:45:11 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: qaz123

It took 15 replies before a common sense answer. Thanks.


38 posted on 06/12/2021 6:28:00 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: backwoods-engineer

What is your point? All the wireless telephones that people use around their house are in the 900 ghz range, there’s no commercial license required.


39 posted on 06/12/2021 6:50:43 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: webheart

Totally agree. Seems the younger generations are drama queens that like making hysterical declarations.


40 posted on 06/12/2021 6:52:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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