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We've Been Telling the Alamo Story Wrong for Nearly 200 Years. Now It's Time to Correct the Record
Time ^ | June 9, 2021 | Bryan Burrough

Posted on 06/10/2021 6:53:14 AM PDT by al_c

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To: the OlLine Rebel

michelle obama confessed that winning the white house in 2008 made her proud to be american for the first time in her adult life


61 posted on 06/10/2021 7:56:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: shanover

>> This and most other magazines are owned by a handful of leftist publishers and hire only writers who push the leftist /statist narrative and agenda. In most cases they can’t even give them away and are digital rags.

In the 1960s even Dylan and the Stones derided such “news” reporters (when they reported the day’s “news” or wanted to do interviews).


62 posted on 06/10/2021 7:58:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Mexico, after gaining independence from Spain (who gave the original charters for Americans to settle in Texas) became a dictatorship”

Correct. Also I doubt the article mentions that Texas was not the only Mexican province that was in revolt - lots of Mexico was rebelling against Santa Ana at this time due to his suspension of the 1824 constitution. It was a principled revolt.


63 posted on 06/10/2021 7:59:19 AM PDT by happyathome
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To: Rebelbase
The neoconquest is happening now. Texians moved into Mexico and didn't assimilate. Migration destroys. A place will be conquered via migration, just as the US is now.
64 posted on 06/10/2021 8:05:45 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: jpsb

“Mexico gained its independence”

It wasn’t a gift. it was armed revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_War_of_Independence

The Mexican War of Independence (Spanish: Guerra de Independencia de México) was an armed conflict and political process, lasting from 1808 to 1821, resulting in Mexico’s independence from Spain. It was not a single, coherent event, but local and regional struggles that occurred within the same time period, and can be considered a revolutionary civil war.[2]

It was okay when Mexico did it to Spain but “wrong” when Texas did it to Mexico?


65 posted on 06/10/2021 8:08:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Theoria

>>Texians moved into Mexico and didn’t assimilate. Migration destroys.

Does that mean that the people south of the border have to give up accordions and polka music?


66 posted on 06/10/2021 8:12:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: al_c

Does this mean we’re going to clear out all of the Muslim colonists in Minneapolis and Dearborn Michigan?


67 posted on 06/10/2021 8:12:24 AM PDT by MercyFlush (A wise man once said nothing. )
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To: a fool in paradise
Conquerors do the conquering. It has always been that way. Demographic take over is another example. Many a folk lost land along the borders, some Spanish land grants were respected, other places were swept away.
68 posted on 06/10/2021 8:15:42 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Alas Babylon!

“...Generalisimo Santa Ana”


Santa Ana was presidente of Mexico four times. During three of his four times in office Mexico shrank. First with Texas Independence, Second with the Mexican Cession and third with the Gadsen Purchase. The Mexicans finally got rid of him after yet another try at being president. He had lost a leg in battle and had it buried with military honors. During one revolt the Mexicans dug it up and fed it to the dogs.

I sometimes watch Mexican TV to help with my Spanish. There is an educational channel Canal Once that did a show on the 11 Worst Mexicans in history. Something like 8 of the 11 were leaders (viceroy, emperor, presidente, etc.) of the nation. Perhaps if Mexicans chose more wisely, they’d be living in a bigger nation. Or perhaps they enjoy an immunity of a certain demographic group—nothing is ever their fault.


69 posted on 06/10/2021 8:17:23 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: al_c

Leftist scab picking is going to destroy what’s left of our country...


70 posted on 06/10/2021 8:19:19 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: a fool in paradise
Does that mean that the people south of the border have to give up accordions and polka music?

Nah ... the Germans and Czechs brought their own. It's all good.

71 posted on 06/10/2021 8:24:18 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: al_c

That was 200 years ago.

China is doing it today, but that’s OK because they’re Commies.


72 posted on 06/10/2021 8:45:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Lefties call anything they can use to subjugate other people "science.")
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To: luvie; Jane Long

Pingaroo.


73 posted on 06/10/2021 8:47:22 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Mexico, after gaining independence from Spain (who gave the original charters for Americans to settle in Texas) became a dictatorship under Generalisimo Santa Ana, and his tyranny caused the rebellion in Texas.

Texas was just one of several Mexican states in rebellion against Santa Ana - Texas just happened to succeed in its rebellion.
74 posted on 06/10/2021 8:49:00 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: hanamizu

He had lost a leg in battle and had it buried with military honors. During one revolt the Mexicans dug it up and fed it to the dogs.
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Now that is some colorful history right there.


75 posted on 06/10/2021 8:51:50 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: al_c

Yes, we have been telling the Alamo story wrong, mainly because we don’t teach any Mexican history, which is spectacularly bumptious. The Mexico City junta had a dreadful time trying to unify the country. The Central American republics were originally part of Mexico; they separated very early on. That was followed by a series of regional revolts. One of these was especially notable because Santa Anna, at the time a young officer, executed an order to slaughter rebel prisoners without mercy, which is an easy connect-the-dots trail to the massacre of the prisoners at Goliad and the Alamo. The Texicans then waged their own successful separatist revolt, which was followed by additional regional uprisings through the 1930’s. If we paid just a bit of attention to Mexico’s history, the idiots wouldn’t have so easy a time misrepresenting the Texas rebellion.


76 posted on 06/10/2021 9:07:29 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: al_c
Funny how after 200 years, people who know nothing about history are the ones retelling it. Get ready for the revisionist history of the Passion of the Christ:
Jesus was betrayed by one of his apostles and tried in the middle of the night by the Sanhedrin and unjustly convicted of blasphemy He was turned over to Pontius Pilate, who flogged him and although finding him innocent, turned him over to the Jews to be crucified. Jesus then carried his cross with help to Golgotha. He was nailed to the cross along with 2 other crucified criminals. He suffered and died. His body was taken off the cross and buried in an grave where a giant stone was rolled in front of it. And on the 3rd day, the stone was rolled away and Jesus appeared risen from his grave. He came out of his grave, saw his shadow and predicted 6 more weeks of winter.
77 posted on 06/10/2021 9:11:59 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: al_c

Revisionists are coming after the Alamo now.

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They’ve been here for years. Rosa Castro - Juan and Julio’s mother - has been a PITA for decades on how Mexicans were the real heroes at the Alamo and the Texans deserved their massacre.

There are many like her.


78 posted on 06/10/2021 9:12:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It’s my government that I hate.)
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To: al_c

LOL. Yeah, that’s gonna go over well.

Just think, Texas could have been another state in the shithole kleptocracy that is Mexico!


79 posted on 06/10/2021 9:13:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Fool, do you have a point? If so I am not “getting” it.


80 posted on 06/10/2021 9:14:50 AM PDT by jpsb
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