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We didn’t have to have ventilator shortage — leaders chose not to prep for pandemic
The New York Post ^ | March 19, 2020 | Betsy McCaughey

Posted on 05/17/2021 2:07:08 PM PDT by TBP

At its most severe, the coronavirus attacks the lungs, making it impossible to breathe without a ventilator. Landing in the hospital on a ventilator is bad. But worse is being told you can’t have one.

Hospitals in New York are running short.

Several years ago, after learning that the Empire State’s stockpile of medical equipment had 16,000 fewer ventilators than the 18,000 New Yorkers would need in a severe pandemic, state public-health leaders came to a fork in the road.

They could have chosen to buy more ventilators to back up the supplies hospitals maintain. ­Instead, the health commissioner, Howard Zucker, assembled a task force for rationing the ventilators they already had.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: betsymccaughey; covid; cuomo; ditgs; gasbag; ventilators
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From March 2020, but worth remembe3ring and worth the remider.
1 posted on 05/17/2021 2:07:08 PM PDT by TBP
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I imagine it will be somewhat shortly before the medical experts without a degree will be here saying ventilators are instruments of death and why would we need them? Buckle up — it will be fun.


2 posted on 05/17/2021 2:08:26 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: TBP

I ‘ve seen the recent pic’s of unopened boxes of ventilators in a landfill.


3 posted on 05/17/2021 2:10:40 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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Better people die than Trump gets any credit.


4 posted on 05/17/2021 2:11:28 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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To: TBP

I never buy into this argument. How much money do we want hospitals to spend on equipment they might need maybe? Ventilators don’t last forever, they have to be maintained, they have to be replaced, new versions happen. The idea that we should have pandemic levels of ventilators for decade after decade without pandemics is just silly.


5 posted on 05/17/2021 2:11:56 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: gas_dr; TBP

I have been working in healthcare for nearly 35 years, and I was surprised last year to find out that state “ventilator stockpiles” were a thing.

I had no idea. It made me wonder what other kinds of things are stockpiled by states that rot and molder in “Raiders of The Lost Ark” kinds of warehouses...


6 posted on 05/17/2021 2:13:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: TBP

80% of people put on ventilators with covid died. I couldn’t say for sure but that’s evidence they either didn’t help or caused more harm.


7 posted on 05/17/2021 2:15:55 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: rlmorel

No kidding. I have been in for 20 years and didn’t realize there were stockpiles either. But I suppose it makes sense.


8 posted on 05/17/2021 2:17:18 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: TBP

Now the feds are doing it again. Diverting funds to the border to house the hoard coming over the border rather than funding replenishment of the National Strategic Stockpile.


9 posted on 05/17/2021 2:17:24 PM PDT by gunnut
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What happened to all those ventilators that President Trump gave to deblahblah? Hmmmmm?


10 posted on 05/17/2021 2:17:59 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (May the 10 just men lacking in Sodom be found in America, for it’s sake of survival.)
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To: monkeyshine

80% of people who have CoVID and placed on vents did not die. This is completely untrue. We will look back at this and there will be forever a black mark on medicine that we panicked and did not do what is the standard or norm based on anecdotal data.

Some things good will come out of this. Specifically proning protocols for ARDS being used in all ARDS cases will likely save many lives. The utilization of modalities like HFNC / Heated HF NC as an intermediate between oxymizer and NIPPV, and therapeutics targeted will usher in some significant improvements in quality and mortality.


11 posted on 05/17/2021 2:20:26 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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Well maybe the news I got is fake, or old, but...

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-ventilators-some-doctors-try-reduce-use-new-york-death-rate-2020-4?op=1

Yes, of course we should learn a lot from this experience.


12 posted on 05/17/2021 2:23:43 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

It is old and truly I am not criticizing your post. This was the bad information, spread somewhat by my own profession early on. We also got swept up in emotion and did not continue the tried and true. The fact is that ARDS, including ARDS CoVID has about a 40% mortality once there is mechanical ventilation.


13 posted on 05/17/2021 2:28:18 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: monkeyshine

Ventilators have a lot of unpleasant side effects. By the time you’re on one they think you’re probably gonna die anyway.


14 posted on 05/17/2021 2:28:33 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: TBP

Ah yes before the mask panic there was the ventilator panic. Just like all the money wasted on the hospital ships and the temporary hospital in Chicago. We was played.


15 posted on 05/17/2021 2:30:16 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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There’s also a picture of many crates of new ventilators sitting in a landfill - I’ll try to find it. Couldn’t donate ‘em or wut? I assume it was a region that claimed they had a ventilator shortage and later didn’t know how to get rid of them without attracting attention. Unfortunately for them, someone photographed them. By the time the news crew went out to film, they were presumed mulched under (24 hrs+ delay)


16 posted on 05/17/2021 2:31:29 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Ventilators killed 9/10 patients that went on them.


17 posted on 05/17/2021 2:33:55 PM PDT by zek157
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To: gas_dr

I kind of does, but...knowing how nearly any government run thing goes, I could only imagine they would have rats nests in them...or worse!


18 posted on 05/17/2021 2:44:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: gas_dr

I didn’t take it as criticism.
I’m like Joe Friday, just the facts.
If not that, then I’ll crack wise.


19 posted on 05/17/2021 2:48:13 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

I like your style.


20 posted on 05/17/2021 2:49:02 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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