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NYT: Will electric cars become an environmental catastrophe?
https://hotair.com ^ | May 10, 2021 6:01 PM ET | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 05/11/2021 5:25:38 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 05/11/2021 5:25:38 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Yes


2 posted on 05/11/2021 5:26:12 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Red Badger
China is holding a couple aces. They're already scr***** us on the chips.

And wait till these batteries start to become "junk".

3 posted on 05/11/2021 5:29:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Even if electrical cars were made to work perfectly and all parts could be 100% recycled, they won't do a damn thing for the environment without lots of nuclear power.

4 posted on 05/11/2021 5:33:59 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Red Badger

The whole subject is a joke without adding massive base load capacity to electrical power generation.

Windmills and solar panels are not going to make it.


5 posted on 05/11/2021 5:34:27 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Socialism- Institutionalized Deprivation)
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Why not just use gasoline-powered generators that fit in the trunk? /s


6 posted on 05/11/2021 5:37:46 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Sacajaweau

Just like forcing plastic bags on the system versus paper, enviros will realize their idiocy when they see and feel it. Then, as always, they will blame the car manufacturers for their lack of environmentalism, not themselves and their blindness.


7 posted on 05/11/2021 5:38:30 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Red Badger
Some fat, diseased and dying billionaire is pushing this because he's going to make even more billions. Liberals/libertardians/demoRATs will also push it because some liberal media outlet says it will stop everything that is bad.

But none of the above have enough IQ points to research the truth. Heck, they're all stupid enough to believe they can change the weather.

8 posted on 05/11/2021 5:43:01 AM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by pimps masquerading as journalists.)
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plus electricity loses 50% in transmission


9 posted on 05/11/2021 5:43:17 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: headstamp 2

Thorium based nuclear is the answer, and it isn’t going to happen. The entire end of nuclear power is to turn Uranium into Plutonium.

You put a cup of silver in one end, and you get a cup of platinum out of the other, and you get some electricity as a useful waste product.

With Thorium (LFTR reactors) the only waste produced is used in new LFTRs as an activator element.

Put one of these reactor facilities (about the size of a two bedroom residential home) along the coastline of the US and you solve 1) the electrical energy crisis, 2) the fresh water scarcity crisis, and 3) Sea level change (if you believe in that BS).

But it is only going to happen in countries that are actually motivated to solve these problems. So where are all of these reactors now? India and China, primarily.

It’s a pity too, since the US has 40 percent of all the Thorium on the planet.


10 posted on 05/11/2021 5:44:00 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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It was never about ‘Climate Change’, it was about ‘control’.....................


11 posted on 05/11/2021 5:45:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven.....................)
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To: BitWielder1

LOL electric cars get their energy from those little holes in the walls.


12 posted on 05/11/2021 5:45:38 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
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To: Red Badger

Why should a 15 yr old girl waiting in line at Starbucks worry about that. She’s too busy saving the world from fossil fuels on her phone.


13 posted on 05/11/2021 5:50:08 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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And so the seeds are planted for the real push to electric vehicles, to eliminate private transportation ...


14 posted on 05/11/2021 5:51:18 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !)
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“battery disposal”

Lithium motor vehicle batteries will be recycled.

“the proposal establishes specific requirements at each stage of the battery value chain.

“In very broad terms, this includes ensuring that raw materials are supplied sustainably and responsibly, that battery cells, modules and packs are manufactured using clean energy, contain low amount of hazardous substances, are energy efficient and designed to last long, and that are properly collected, recycled or repurposed. Specific focus on the end of their life phase is needed to ensure that no battery is lost to waste, but that batteries are rather repurposed or remanufactured and that the valuable materials they contain feed back into the economy.

“In order to have a significant impact on the EU battery market, these measures are legally binding and adopted at EU level.”

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_20_2311


15 posted on 05/11/2021 5:56:27 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: BitWielder1

Even Elon Musk, the schizoid, cult like figure who leads Tesla and who’s goal is to die on Mars, admits that “green energy” can never power a modern industrial society. Nor will Americans ever maintain their standard of living as long as people like Biden, Kerry, Soros and their ilk have power.


16 posted on 05/11/2021 5:56:39 AM PDT by allendale
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Yes, coal produced energy, mining for minerals, dead batteries and obsolesent technology junked. There are “auto graveyards/scrapyards but people do still use them to harvest parts for cars.

Electronics is a disposable world.

And that oil is still going to leak loose in the Gulf from the bottom of the sea.

And for the time being the rest of the world (especially new users of gas powered cars) aren’t going “electric” so there will still be use of these fuels, exhaust, etc.

All we have done is diminishes our industrial production capacity and given up our freedom of travel.

This isn’t a better mousetrap. This is a government mandated change. Follow the money. See who lobbied, see how they profit.


17 posted on 05/11/2021 5:57:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. L)
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“plus electricity loses 50% in transmission”

No it does not.

Transformers are used to step up voltages, greatly reducing transmission losses.


18 posted on 05/11/2021 5:58:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: headstamp 2

Yep! Here in CA, we have now seasonal brown-outs due to demand along with multi-day shut-downs due to fire risk. Oh, and we have also gone completely insane and mandated that all vehicles sold here must be “zero emission” by 2035.


19 posted on 05/11/2021 6:01:45 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: Red Badger

BS article.
Stopped reading when it got to lamenting about cobalt. Tesla is eliminating cobalt from battery production.
Lithium is highly recyclable. Yes we’ll need a lot of it, but not like there’s a no-impact alternative.
Million-mile battery life is being achieved. 3M+ is predicted as battery management software improves.

Yes, EVs aren’t as “green” as evangelists & naysayers claim - but there’sa lot going for them. Obsolete arguments are getting tiresome.


20 posted on 05/11/2021 6:02:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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